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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Yes I did. What exactly constitutes "interests of National Security"?
    You may want to look in them for your answer. There's literally hundreds of them. "Covering something up" isn't one of them, though.
    1: No.

    2: Irrelevent.
    You're the one that brought up involuntary manslaughter. I agree, it's irrelevant. Why did you purposely bring something up that was irrelevant? Why are you rationalizing Manning leaking information when the only problem you have with the actions was that no apology was issued afterward?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Any one of the many general apologies suffices.
    No it does not. Would you accept such an apology?

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    Do you think that part of wikileaks is legal or justified?
    I believe that wikileaks had every right to release the information that they did. But then I believe in freedom of the press. I also believe that the ONLY things that should be classified is troop movements/strategies, and military technology.
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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    No it does not. Would you accept such an apology?
    Yes, it does and, yes, I would.

    I believe that wikileaks had every right to release the information that they did. But then I believe in freedom of the press.
    Yeah, well... releasing classified ambassador speculation? That serves no purpose and hurts diplomacy fundamentally. You don't like diplomacy?

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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    What Assaunge did wasn't rape. As was said earlier if you do what he did here in the US this would be a non-issue and nothing would have come of it. (BTW for actual rape here in the US the victim can refuse to prosecute...all they have to do is refuse to testify and without their testimony the person walks)

    As for your reference to "The Great Satan"...last I knew that is what Islamic extremists called the US...what do they have to do with this discussion?

    And no, its not that big of a mystery as to why he hasn't gone back. Sweden has an extradition treaty with the US in which they pretty much ALWAYS extradite to the US. You should note that originally the Prosecutor there in Sweden wasn't going to charge Assaunge. It wasn't until after Assaunge had leaked those files that the prosecutor "decided" to charge Assaunge. IIRC the "rapes" as you call them actually happened a year or so before these leaks.
    Oh come on. You like the Great Satan label. You can admit it. It's what turns worms like Assange into heroes for those on the Far Left. If the United States is the target, then any outrage is permissable. Even releasing private diplomatic communications that might result in death to Americans or their allies.
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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    You may want to look in them for your answer. There's literally hundreds of them. "Covering something up" isn't one of them, though.
    Do you really think that they would say "Oh! lets cover this up!" No. They would have it fall under one of the various qualifications...such as "interests of National Security".

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    You're the one that brought up involuntary manslaughter. I agree, it's irrelevant. Why did you purposely bring something up that was irrelevant?
    Ok, now I understand what you meant. I am not calling for the troops that did the shooting to be charged with involuntary manslaughter. My bringing it up was to show that killing someone accidentally is considered wrong in our society. Right? So shouldn't there at the very least be an apology for committing something that was equivilant to involuntary manslaughter (the accidental killing of someone)?

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Why are you rationalizing Manning leaking information when the only problem you have with the actions was that no apology was issued afterward?
    I'm not rationalizing anything that Manning did. As I have said before I agree that what Manning did was wrong. This whole conversation started because someone (can't remember who now without looking) questioned whether "misdeeds" was evidenced in the leaks. I showed that there was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Oh come on. You like the Great Satan label. You can admit it. It's what turns worms like Assange into heroes for those on the Far Left. If the United States is the target, then any outrage is permissable. Even releasing private diplomatic communications that might result in death to Americans or their allies.
    When you have something that is actually relevent to say then I will yank your chain.
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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I believe that wikileaks had every right to release the information that they did. But then I believe in freedom of the press.
    fascinating. so you do not believe in such a thing as proprietary information?

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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Yes, it does and, yes, I would.
    So if your child was killed in a war even though he was a civilian that was doing NOTHING wrong you would accept a "general" apology that isn't even directed at you or at least the event? Some how I doubt it very seriously.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Yeah, well... releasing classified ambassador speculation? That serves no purpose and hurts diplomacy fundamentally. You don't like diplomacy?
    I like open and honest diplomacy. Not hidden.

    Edit to add: "or at least the event"
    Last edited by Kal'Stang; 10-01-12 at 09:29 PM.
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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    When you have something that is actually relevent to say then I will yank your chain.
    And whenever you say anything that isn't a knee-jerk defense of the Australian rapist, I'll care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    fascinating. so you do not believe in such a thing as proprietary information?
    When it comes to the government? No. As I said before the only things that should be classified is military movement/stratagies, and military technology.
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