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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Video @: [/FONT][/COLOR]Assange Speaks to UN - YouTube

    Assange speaks to UN panel and calls on US, UK and Sweden and speaks to respect free speech, and protect whistle blowers, and to free Bradly Manning. Ecuador and others try to convince the US, UK, and Sweden to allow safe passage and go back to Sweden to try to clear up these "sexual acts" allegations.
    Here is an opportunity for the US to support its allegedly "free speech" in this Nation. The documents released showed that the USA was lying to other Nations, diplomats, we the people, and the press. It made it obvious, one more time, that security labels, i.e. "top secret, secret, confidential" are really used to hide screw ups and any negative info. Nothing whatever to do with security.

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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    How many times must this subject been regurgitated in futility? What some would prefer to label as "whistle blowing", was quite simply a document dump that violated the potential sovereignty, safte and diplomatic interests of a myriad of countries. Manning, on the other hand, by all indications violated both military and federal law by unloading a truckload of documents to sources not deemed fit by the contracts necessarily signed simply in order to obtain such security clearance. Not much sympathy for the kid, nor do I understand the overwhelming support and the seemingly hero-like treatment he's adorned with.

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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    How many times must this subject been regurgitated in futility? What some would prefer to label as "whistle blowing", was quite simply a document dump that violated the potential sovereignty, safte and diplomatic interests of a myriad of countries. Manning, on the other hand, by all indications violated both military and federal law by unloading a truckload of documents to sources not deemed fit by the contracts necessarily signed simply in order to obtain such security clearance. Not much sympathy for the kid, nor do I understand the overwhelming support and the seemingly hero-like treatment he's adorned with.
    If ydou don't understand it you were probably duped by the corporate media too.

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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    If ydou don't understand it you were probably duped by the corporate media too.
    I'm assuming this is satirical...I hope it is...
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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    If ydou don't understand it you were probably duped by the corporate media too.
    No "corporate influence" at play here, or any other buzzwords or catchphrases of the sort. Some of us simply realize that violations of the law should be treated as such, regardless of the feel good, cumbaya, intentions that may lie behind such actions.

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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    I'm assuming this is satirical...I hope it is...
    No, I think most of the world is duped by the corporate media.

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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Whistleblowing generally implies that there is specific information or a specific issue you want to alert the public to by releasing information. Assange is not a whistle blower, he got his hands upon State Department communications cables in their hundreds of thousands and dumped them without making any effort to sift through them. He had no idea if people could be hurt, conflicts started or exacerbated, etc etc, because he didn't even really have a great idea of what was on them.

    Because let's be honest, there is nothing "Whistle Blowing" about dumping half a million documents from SIPRNet and JWICS.
    Thats incorrect.

    Assange and Wikileaks DID NOT DUMP EVERYTHING they received onto he public domain without first deciding on whether the information endangered other peoples lives

    In fact Assange has already said publically that he, even today, has access to files that relate to corrupt Banking practices and US war crimes that he hasnt released yet

    Whistle blowing isnt even an issue here - I believe its called investigative journalism

    If the mass media corporate puppets had down their Job you wouldnt even need wikileaks to release the US war crime files

    WHo will defend the 1.4 million dead Iraqi civilians? Most of whom were children and the elderly

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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    No, I think most of the world is duped by the corporate media.


    What the ****? So if you think Assange just dumped a bunch of classified files in a half-hearted attempt for 'transparency' and that Manning didn't break not only UCMJ but also his legal non-disclosure agreement, you're just being duped by the corporate media? Seriously?
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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post


    What the ****? So if you think Assange just dumped a bunch of classified files in a half-hearted attempt for 'transparency' and that Manning didn't break not only UCMJ but also his legal non-disclosure agreement, you're just being duped by the corporate media? Seriously?
    I think his decision was good for journalism.

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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Who's? And what if it was? What would be the significance of that?

    Are you implying that people should prize what's good for journalism over what's good for the federal government? Wouldn't that just be subjectively preferential?
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