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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    he didn't use one even though she told him to use one.
    I think that's rape. And if it turns out that he has HIV, it's murder.

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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Er..no.
    So they NEVER classify something as "classified" or "Top Secret" in order to cover things up? How nieve do you think I am?

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    I'm pretty sure we're talking about the same exact thing. Wikileaks called it Collateral Murder. Looks like a normal Apache engagement to me, but of course people with no experience would be shocked by it.
    Thanks for that one looked it up but no, we are not talking about the same one. The one that I saw had a van in it and a few people.

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    Anyway, helicopter feeds are always at least Secret. So who gives a ****? Just release every time someone ****s up? Why? Cause you're curious.
    Being curious has nothing to do with it. Doing the right thing has everything to do with it.

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    Now, you never did tell me what you'd do. I guess just not engage, and hope they didn't kill some of your comrades? You sound like you'd be great under pressure. I'd love to be in a sticky situation with you. "Hey guys! That could be a squirt gun! That other guy probably just has one of those collapsible prank knives! I won't shoot, I'm sure you guys will be fine."
    I would have made sure that the guy was carrying an RPG and not a news camera....Which comes to mind...how do you mistake this...

    A news camera.jpg

    For this....

    RPG.jpg

    ??
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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I think that's rape. And if it turns out that he has HIV, it's murder.
    What you think is rape and what actually is rape is two different things. But hey...if it really was rape why did she go to a party with him afterwards and comment to a friend that it was really cool being at the party with him?
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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    What you think is rape and what actually is rape is two different things. But hey...if it really was rape why did she go to a party with him afterwards and comment to a friend that it was really cool being at the party with him?
    I'm not gonna discuss the side stuff and possible hearsay. Nor will I endeavor into the possible psychological motives for suppressing trauma and the many examples we have of that.

    I will only say that someone not using a condom when requested is rape, and if he is HIV positive, it is murder. IMHO.

    Perhaps that's why he refuses to be tested, because it would reveal that he has committed (at least attempted) murder.

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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    So they NEVER classify something as "classified" or "Top Secret" in order to cover things up? How nieve do you think I am?
    Uhhh...no, they don't. There's an SOP for classifying things. You knew that, didn't you? Or are you picturing some random general smoking a cigar, randomly shouting "Classify it!'?

    Thanks for that one looked it up but no, we are not talking about the same one. The one that I saw had a van in it and a few people.
    It has a van.

    Being curious has nothing to do with it. Doing the right thing has everything to do with it.
    They did the right thing. They killed that which they perceived as a threat. It's the most right thing you can do in a war.

    I would have made sure that the guy was carrying an RPG and not a news camera
    So you would've waited. It's a good thing you were never in the military. You'd have been responsible for the deaths of lots of your people.

    ....Which comes to mind...how do you mistake this...

    A news camera.jpg

    For this....

    RPG.jpg

    ??
    Watch the video and find out. You didn't even know it had a van in it, so you might want to go back and watch it again.
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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    So they NEVER classify something as "classified" or "Top Secret" in order to cover things up? How nieve do you think I am?
    well, if they did, then you wouldn't exactly have heard about the scandals that we have, now would you?

    I would have made sure that the guy was carrying an RPG and not a news camera....Which comes to mind...how do you mistake this...

    A news camera.jpg

    For this....

    RPG.jpg

    ??
    From the front, rapidly, through eye-pro, and as he leans out suddenly.

    When you jump out at soldiers or Marines with something on your shoulder, pointing at them, when they are in combat, you are likely going to get shot. If you don't like that, you have no one to blame but Darwin.

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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I'm not gonna discuss the side stuff and possible hearsay. Nor will I endeavor into the possible psychological motives for suppressing trauma and the many examples we have of that.

    I will only say that someone not using a condom when requested is rape, and if he is HIV positive, it is murder. IMHO.

    Perhaps that's why he refuses to be tested, because it would reveal that he has committed (at least attempted) murder.
    Possible hearsay? That was from the woman herself.

    But I'm not surprised that you want to ignore that part. You apparently are quite willing to find Assaunge guilty no matter the actual facts.
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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Possible hearsay? That was from the woman herself.

    But I'm not surprised that you want to ignore that part. You apparently are quite willing to find Assaunge guilty no matter the actual facts.
    There are many instances of victims suppressing trauma and behaving normally after. Her statements at a party, immediately after the event (?) and with the alleged rapist, nonetheless, do not necessarily impugn her allegation.


    If a woman requests that someone uses a condom and they do not, that's rape. If they are HIV positive, it is attempted murder or murder (depending on transmission). Do you disagree?

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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Uhhh...no, they don't. There's an SOP for classifying things. You knew that, didn't you? Or are you picturing some random general smoking a cigar, randomly shouting "Classify it!'?
    Yes I knew about it. Doesn't take much to get things classified.

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    It has a van.
    Not at the begining of the shooting which is when the firing started in the video that I saw.

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    They did the right thing. They killed that which they perceived as a threat. It's the most right thing you can do in a war.
    I'm not going to argue whether shooting them was the right or wrong thing to do. My arguement is that our government covered it up and swept it under the rug. No apologies, no restitution, nothing. Just swept it under the rug. And THAT is what was wrong.
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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Yes I knew about it. Doesn't take much to get things classified.
    have you ever been an original classification authority?

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