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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Klown View Post
    interesting - were in my posts is the figure 140,000 referred to?

    You should try reading a post and actually understanding it first before you offer a critique of it

    Perhaps you would like to educate the participants in this thread with an estimate of the number of Iraqi civilians slaughtered by the US military?

    Or are those deaths meaningless in the Imperial schemes of the US to theive oil and resources whilst setting up military bases all over the planet as a self appointed fascist corporate tyranny that exports totalitarianism and oppression?
    I think I'll just let this post stand by itself. It needs no critical analysis from me or anybody else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    I wasn't aware that the prosecution of crimes was left up to victims. Thanks for clearing that up.
    Some crimes are left up to the "victims" (and should be). For example if someone punches me in the face I can choose to not press assault charges.
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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Some crimes are left up to the "victims" (and should be). For example if someone punches me in the face I can choose to not press assault charges.
    Yeah, I'm guessing rape isn't in that category, however. But I do appreciate your continued defense of the Australian rapist. Now if you could just get those pesky Swedes - even though they apparently are nothing more than lackeys of the Great Satan - to agree, your boy's problems would be over. Of course, since he doesn't have the balls to go back and face the music, we are left to wonder why, aren't we?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    They're doing it for practical reasons relating to their self-interest. Just like governments do.
    Well if Assaunge is in jail he can't exactly continue to expose the lies of governments so while it may be in his interest to avoid going to jail it should also be in every single persons interest to keep him out also. If of course you actually want a government that is held accountable for its misdeeds.
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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Yeah, I'm guessing rape isn't in that category, however. But I do appreciate your continued defense of the Australian rapist. Now if you could just get those pesky Swedes - even though they apparently are nothing more than lackeys of the Great Satan - to agree, your boy's problems would be over. Of course, since he doesn't have the balls to go back and face the music, we are left to wonder why, aren't we?
    What Assaunge did wasn't rape. As was said earlier if you do what he did here in the US this would be a non-issue and nothing would have come of it. (BTW for actual rape here in the US the victim can refuse to prosecute...all they have to do is refuse to testify and without their testimony the person walks)

    As for your reference to "The Great Satan"...last I knew that is what Islamic extremists called the US...what do they have to do with this discussion?

    And no, its not that big of a mystery as to why he hasn't gone back. Sweden has an extradition treaty with the US in which they pretty much ALWAYS extradite to the US. You should note that originally the Prosecutor there in Sweden wasn't going to charge Assaunge. It wasn't until after Assaunge had leaked those files that the prosecutor "decided" to charge Assaunge. IIRC the "rapes" as you call them actually happened a year or so before these leaks.
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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Well if Assaunge is in jail he can't exactly continue to expose the lies of governments so while it may be in his interest to avoid going to jail it should also be in every single persons interest to keep him out also. If of course you actually want a government that is held accountable for its misdeeds.
    If you think he exposed any misdeeds, that is.

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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    Espionage is not limited to foreign governments. Bradley Manning illegally obtained information, he gave that information to a source, who disseminated the information publicly, which was of benefit to a hostile enemy force during a time of war.
    The New York Times has disseminated classified information before...should they be held for espionage also? Why/why not? (Note that I am NOT defending Manning, I believe that he is where he is suppose to be..and should be there for a long time. My question is mainly regarding the journalism aspect)


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    No, they benefited themselves, and by disseminating this information, they benefited our enemy during a time of war.
    How did Assaunge benefit himself?

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    That information contained a great deal of information about current and planned operations. That is a huge benefit to the Mujahadeen and the Taliban.
    From what I have read and heard and understand the information regarded what happened in the past.
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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    If you think he exposed any misdeeds, that is.
    Which he did. For example the helicopter that shot up a bunch of civilians. (can't remember name of that particular event or I would post it)
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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    What Assaunge did wasn't rape.
    Not according to the law.

    As was said earlier if you do what he did here in the US this would be a non-issue and nothing would have come of it. (BTW for actual rape here in the US the victim can refuse to prosecute...all they have to do is refuse to testify and without their testimony the person walks)
    False. If statutory rape was claimed and evidence gathered, the perp can still be prosecuted successfully.

    As for your reference to "The Great Satan"...last I knew that is what Islamic extremists called the US...what do they have to do with this discussion?
    You don't think that maybe, aside from the CTers, Islamists are jumping for joy at Ass's actions?

    IIRC the "rapes" as you call them actually happened a year or so before these leaks.
    Always fun when rape gets scare quotes.

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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Not according to the law.
    I don't care what country you're in. Rape cannot happen if the people involved consent to it.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    False. If statutory rape was claimed and evidence gathered, the perp can still be prosecuted successfully.
    Statutory rape involves minors. We're talking about adults here.

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    You don't think that maybe, aside from the CTers, Islamists are jumping for joy at Ass's actions?
    CTers? Who are they? And who's "Ass's"? The womens? Assuange's? Or do you mean "Assuange" with that? If you meant Assaunge...I don't care if they are or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Always fun when rape gets scare quotes.
    Wasn't "scare" quotes. I put quotes around it because what he did was not rape like he keeps claiming. Even Stockholm's Chief Prosecutor Eva Finne said that it wasn't rape.
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