Page 10 of 31 FirstFirst ... 8910111220 ... LastLast
Results 91 to 100 of 304

Thread: Assange Speaks to UN

  1. #91
    Banned
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    virginia
    Last Seen
    04-01-13 @ 03:46 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Private
    Posts
    16,881
    Blog Entries
    19

    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    I don't hate free speech. I just hate one sided, political rhetoric - most of it developed by Noam Chomsky - passed off as meanignful political dialogue.
    No matter what, it's still a free speech issue.

  2. #92
    Banned
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    virginia
    Last Seen
    04-01-13 @ 03:46 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Private
    Posts
    16,881
    Blog Entries
    19

    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    I continue to be amused at the passion with which people defend Assange and Manning. Highly amusing.
    That's the problem. You find it amusing. I think about it as a serious free speech subject.

  3. #93
    global liberation

    ecofarm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Miami
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:36 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    66,419

    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    That information contained a great deal of information about current and planned operations. That is a huge benefit to the Mujahadeen and the Taliban.
    Aside from military related stuff, other things hurt the country. For example, the wikileaks from the amabassador from Kenya contained guesses, feelings, suspicions and speculation regarding the Kenyan government. Of course, there is a reason that these things were not made public - they were not facts or even necessarily true. It is obvious that ammbassadors would send this kind of information on through secure channels (for a variety of reasons). Unfortunately, these ambassadorial wikileaks are presented as "fact" because "they were in wikileaks". This caused the US government problems.

  4. #94
    versus the world
    Surtr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    The greatest planet in the world.
    Last Seen
    06-10-14 @ 03:54 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    7,017

    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    No matter what, it's still a free speech issue.
    May as well be giving out the names of police informants, undercover officers, SF personnel, and members of the CIA. It's just free speech.

    I honestly couldn't give a rats ass about Assange. Manning was the actor in this. Not only did he steal classified military information for the purpose of dissemination, he did it as a member of the Uniformed Services. That last part is what should end in execution.
    I love the NSA. It's like having a secret fan-base you will never see, but they're there, watching everything you write and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that I may be some person's only form of unconstitutional entertainment one night.

  5. #95
    global liberation

    ecofarm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Miami
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:36 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    66,419

    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    That's the problem. You find it amusing. I think about it as a serious free speech subject.
    And if someone released all of your personal conversations, bank and medical records, that's free speech?

  6. #96
    versus the world
    Surtr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    The greatest planet in the world.
    Last Seen
    06-10-14 @ 03:54 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    7,017

    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Aside from military related stuff, other things hurt the country. For example, the wikileaks from the mabassador from Kenya contained guesses, feelings, suspicions and speculation regarding the Kenyan government. Of course, there is a reason that these things were not made public - they were not facts or even necessarily true. It is obvious that ammbassadors would send this kind of information on through secure channels (for a variety of reasons). Unfortunately, these ambassadorial wikileaks are presented as "fact" because "they were in wikileaks". This caused the US government problems.
    Assange is done. He's pissed on so many shoes in high places that prison is probably his safest bet. He didn't even do it for money, he did it for some inflated sense of moral superiority. Hope it was worth it.
    I love the NSA. It's like having a secret fan-base you will never see, but they're there, watching everything you write and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that I may be some person's only form of unconstitutional entertainment one night.

  7. #97
    Sage

    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Last Seen
    10-28-17 @ 06:19 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Liberal
    Posts
    15,248

    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    That's the problem. You find it amusing. I think about it as a serious free speech subject.
    Revealing secrets to terrorists and potential enemies is an area where I'm perfectly willing to curtail what you describe as 'free speech'. You are not.

    Presumbably if Assange had been around in 1944 and revealed the D-Day timetable, you and the rest of his followers would have been writing letters to the editor criticizing the government for keeping such information secret and praising Assange and Manning for 'informing' us all.
    "Groups with guitars are on the way out, Mr. Epstein"

    Dick Rowe, A & R man
    Decca Records
    London, 1962

  8. #98
    global liberation

    ecofarm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Miami
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:36 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    66,419

    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    He didn't even do it for money, he did it for some inflated sense of moral superiority. Hope it was worth it.
    He did it for his 15 minutes, and I think reasonable people have had enough.

  9. #99
    Sage

    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Last Seen
    10-28-17 @ 06:19 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Liberal
    Posts
    15,248

    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    Assange is done. He's pissed on so many shoes in high places that prison is probably his safest bet. He didn't even do it for money, he did it for some inflated sense of moral superiority. Hope it was worth it.
    'Moral Superiority' is the coin of the realm for the Far Left.
    "Groups with guitars are on the way out, Mr. Epstein"

    Dick Rowe, A & R man
    Decca Records
    London, 1962

  10. #100
    Banned
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    virginia
    Last Seen
    04-01-13 @ 03:46 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Private
    Posts
    16,881
    Blog Entries
    19

    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    And if someone released all of your personal conversations, bank and medical records, that's free speech?
    No, there are laws against that. You are talking apples and oranges. Besides the supreme court has ruled that public figures do not have the same rights to privacy as pissants do.

Page 10 of 31 FirstFirst ... 8910111220 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •