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America’s Dumbest War, Ever

I believe it has "only come to light" with left-wing wackos. Nearly everybody else understands that all major intelligence agencies believed the same things.
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And just where did nearly "everybody" get this information?
 
Frogfussle said:
We went over there with a club seeking to install a puppet government just as we have in every invasion since Vietnam. Folks you need to stop believing our government's press releases which are dutifully repeated by the press. Our numerous invasions of other nations are aimed at installing puppet governments are aimed at installing puppet governments. Our assassinations in other countries are aimed at installing puppet governments. Our bribery is mostly aimed at buying off other governments. Our instigating revolutions in Libya, Syria and next Lebanon are also aimed at total control of the world (as much as possible). Anyone who thinks otherwise is misinformed. As practiced by our owners the words "humanitarian intervention" are like saying merciful torture.
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:bravo::wcm


That should be obvious to everyone, the trouble is the press is bought off.
 
Misterveritis said:
Do you believe we need to change Afghanistan in order to deny its use as a terrorist base for planning and executing attacks against US interests and US citizens?

The one term Marxist has already declared victory and fled Iraq. Is it okay for me to hate the one term Marxist for what he has done to us?
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We're still in Iraq.

It would make more sense to hate the two term commander in chief who got us involved in that mess to begin with.
 
Kane said:
:bravo::wcm


That should be obvious to everyone, the trouble is the press is bought off.
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A Truther discussing the 'dumbest wars'.
 
If someone believes that the US attacked itself to start a war against brown people/islam/Muslims/for oil and such, then how can we discuss results or progress with any intellectual honesty?
 
ecofarm said:
If someone believes that the US attacked itself to start a war against brown people/islam/Muslims/for oil and such, then how can we discuss results or progress with any intellectual honesty?
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Starting with a false belief, we can't really discuss anything with intellectual honesty.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Starting with a false belief, we can't really discuss anything with intellectual honesty.
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How can I debate the results or progress of a war with someone who believes that there is no real reason for it in the first place.
 
ecofarm said:
How can I debate the results or progress of a war with someone who believes that there is no real reason for it in the first place.
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Well, it is true that it is a war that never should have been.

I suppose you could discuss the progress of the war by starting with a description of what victory would look like, and seeing how close we are to it.
 
Dittohead not! said:
I suppose you could discuss the progress of the war by starting with a description of what victory would look like, and seeing how close we are to it.
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See signature.
 
Frogfussle said:
We went over there with a club seeking to install a puppet government just as we have in every invasion since Vietnam. Folks you need to stop believing our government's press releases which are dutifully repeated by the press. Our numerous invasions of other nations are aimed at installing puppet governments are aimed at installing puppet governments. Our assassinations in other countries are aimed at installing puppet governments. Our bribery is mostly aimed at buying off other governments. Our instigating revolutions in Libya, Syria and next Lebanon are also aimed at total control of the world (as much as possible). Anyone who thinks otherwise is misinformed. As practiced by our owners the words "humanitarian intervention" are like saying merciful torture.
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You say it like it's a bad thing. Are governments supposed to protect and forward their nation's interests?
 
ecofarm said:
If someone believes that the US attacked itself to start a war against brown people/islam/Muslims/for oil and such, then how can we discuss results or progress with any intellectual honesty?
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"Brown people"? :doh

Spoken like a true tea partier.

Go back to your Kenyan, Communist conspiracies!
 
RabidAlpaca said:
And this is how I know that you were never there prior to 2008. You apparently never saw how much of a failure the war was before Obama even took office.

I was addressing OldWorldOrder, who not only loves that we are at war, but wants it to continue forever for his profit.
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Whether I was there or wasn't is not remotely an issue. I do know the rules of engagement changed once the Obama administration came into power. I have been supporting the people who fight our wars in Iraq and Afghanistan for a very long time. Success or failure is not always obvious in a limited war.
 
iliveonramen said:
That's true...most Americans still think Iraq was actually involved in 9/11. I'm guessing you're part of that group.
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You can explain this, why do left wing wackos believe that anyone believes that Iraq was involved in the destruction of the Twin Towers, WTC7 and portions of the Pentagon?

Our policy was regime change (same as now with the Obama Administration). There were adequate reasons for destroying Hussein.
 
Dittohead not! said:
We're still in Iraq.
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Indeed we are. And we shall be for the next hundred years. He still declared victory and fled. I suppose that was for public consumption.

It would make more sense to hate the two term commander in chief who got us involved in that mess to begin with.
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Maybe. Maybe not. We solved a problem. We had a victory in hand that could have stabilized a portion of that region for a generation or more. But the one term Marxist gave up the certain victory for something less.
 
Whose ROE? Cause I'm just about certain that that isn't the case.
 
Misterveritis said:
You can explain this, why do left wing wackos believe that anyone believes that Iraq was involved in the destruction of the Twin Towers, WTC7 and portions of the Pentagon?

Our policy was regime change (same as now with the Obama Administration). There were adequate reasons for destroying Hussein.
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Polling that shows a remarkably high % of Americans believe Iraq was involved in 9/11. I wonder where they got that idea from?
 
It took the Russians 8 or 9 years to realize they were not going to prevail in Afghanistan.

We Americans are much brighter than they, and know that we will prevail in 25 years. Simple, eh? :doh
 
Misterveritis said:
Indeed we are. And we shall be for the next hundred years. He still declared victory and fled. I suppose that was for public consumption.


Maybe. Maybe not. We solved a problem. We had a victory in hand that could have stabilized a portion of that region for a generation or more. But the one term Marxist gave up the certain victory for something less.
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We had a victory in hand in Iraq? Really?

and, what were the criteria for that victory? How did we know we were about to win if there were no clear goals in that war?
 
iguanaman said:
What do you want to do? Nuke 'em? The only way to "win" in Vietnam or Afghanistan was to kill everyone there. Is that your point?
Neither country is EVER going to be our puppet as long as any are alive to pick up a gun.
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Thats not the only way. Our goal is to prevent Afghanistan from being used as a base for terrorists. Acomplishing that is as simple as building a base to protect our people, and then using it to launch attacks on any terrorists. What the Afghanis do beyond that is their problem. We dont have to build roads or make friends. We leave them alone, they leave us alone.
 
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