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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Letter, from a soldier to his father, as published at America



    I think its sad that the media, the President, congress, americans, have forgotten Afghanistan. Recession, fiscal cliffs, unemployment, debt, kate middletons breasts, are far less important than american citizens who are fighting and dying in a war without a point, and whose commander makes jokes on comedy shows, while congress flips pancakes to win votes.

    Until we get responsible people in office, the best thing to do is immediate withdrawl. 343 Coalition soldiers have died in Afghanistan this year. No one seems to care but their families and friends.
    I don't think that it's that the American people has forgotten about Afghanistan.

    Rather, I think that the American people have realized that despite being a representative democracy they are proven to be powerless to stop it, especially when so many politicians and their corporate contributors are profiting from it off the taxpayers' backs.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Letter, from a soldier to his father, as published at America



    I think its sad that the media, the President, congress, americans, have forgotten Afghanistan. Recession, fiscal cliffs, unemployment, debt, kate middletons breasts, are far less important than american citizens who are fighting and dying in a war without a point, and whose commander makes jokes on comedy shows, while congress flips pancakes to win votes.

    Until we get responsible people in office, the best thing to do is immediate withdrawl. 343 Coalition soldiers have died in Afghanistan this year. No one seems to care but their families and friends.
    As an airborne infantry afghanistan vet, I 100% agree. When I came home back to Texas someone asked me: "How was Iraq?" I then replied "I was in Afghanistan." He then got an astonished look on his face "..We're still in Afghanistan!!??"

    I've said it once on here, and I'll say it again. This war is unwinnable, and we are wasting our time and resources.
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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    There hasn't been a war on that since the 1940s. It wasn't even democratic socialism, for God's sake. It was welfare liberalism.
    We see its extension in the one term Marxist's wrecking the US economy. FDR kept things bad. Obama is doing the same.
    Welfare leiberalism? Is that just another name for democratic socialism?

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Welfare leiberalism? Is that just another name for democratic socialism?
    Only to those who wish to be simple-minded about it. It is quite constrained in output and in intentions in comparison with the Democratic Socialists. FDR's actions nullified the impact of the socialists and democratic socialists for decades. The movement was astoundingly crushed.
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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Then you must be saying, "War is good business," let's have more of it, because it makes jobs for people. You are supporting the wars. OK, but don't try to make it sound innocent. It is ugly, evil policy. Just say, let's gin up some more chaos, mayhem, destruction and death. Don't be shy.
    Oh it's ugly? Evil? I'm more Hobbesian about it.

    Also, for total disclosure's sake- in case you want to say something and in retrospect put your foot in your mouth- I'm an 8 year Army veteran with two Iraq deployments and a rough one in Mindanao. Now I'm a DoD contractor and it pays well and I went on a third trip to Iraq last summer. You don't like the wars. Some people do. Trying to make a moralistic stand? Good luck. If you want to take a rational approach, understand that the US' high standard of living throughout the second half of the 20th century is due to war. Understand that your comfort was won via war.
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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    We see its extension in the one term Marxist's wrecking the US economy. FDR kept things bad. Obama is doing the same.
    Welfare leiberalism? Is that just another name for democratic socialism?
    Every time you try to pretend Obama is a Marxist, the internet laughs at you.
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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Only to those who wish to be simple-minded about it. It is quite constrained in output and in intentions in comparison with the Democratic Socialists. FDR's actions nullified the impact of the socialists and democratic socialists for decades. The movement was astoundingly crushed.
    And every mighty oak began as a small acorn.

    FDR did what he could to advance democratic socialism. He prolonged the Depression with his policies. And yet the dumb masses kept voging him back into office. It seems that the one term Marxist is hoping to replicate FDR's achievement. Of course he did need to significantly increase the welfare rolls, increase misery by bankrupting coal companies and therefore increasing the cost of energy, and then give his supporters stuff. Obamaphone anybody?

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Every time you try to pretend Obama is a Marxist, the internet laughs at you.
    Why do you believe it is pretend? He as much told us that he spent his formative years surrounded by Marxists, Communists, socialists, Progressives, radicals, and terrorists. Those are the people he is most comfortable with. Their doctrines are his doctrines.

    Every time you try to pretend to be clever the Internet chuckles at your expense. Chuckles.

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Aside from the fact that you have just strung a series of strange talking points into one thought, you do know you have just essentially implicated almost the entire Republican Party as complicit or advancing democratic socialism, don't you?
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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    There hasn't been a war on that since the 1940s. It wasn't even democratic socialism, for God's sake. It was welfare liberalism.
    YOu are both wrong WWII was necessary.
    "Those who do not learn from history and condemned to relive it".

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