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America’s Dumbest War, Ever

He tried to backpedal, obfuscate, and dodge, but that's what it came down to. Note how my disputing his argument descended into "well, I don't know for real, but neither of us can prove it!" when the onus of proving something falls on the guy making the initial claim.

It wasn't a good showing and I feel bad for him. I might paypal him some money, for compensation.
I made my claim based on comments from customers we have supported in Iraq and later in Afghanistan in addition. I pay attention.

You claimed near perfect knowledge. My argument, was that neither of us can prove our positions. I did not change my position. I did not say I don't know. You said I don't know but that you, from your perch on the junction of multiple SIPRnets, have near perfect knowledge. I asked you to give us some examples, ideally from the actual ROE published during the Bush era followed up with those published after the one term Marxist took control and declared defeat. But you cannot.

I hope you are better at warfighting than you are at this.
 
I made my claim based on comments from customers we have supported in Iraq and later in Afghanistan in addition. I pay attention.

And I made my point based upon experience, knowledge, and access to the SIPRnet. The difference is you made the initial claim. Can you back it up? No. Do you even know it to be a fact? No, you later admitted.

But you said it anyway, and that was ****ing dumb.
 
I believe misterveritas is a _____ist of unknown term length, gentlemen, and I propose that he be given some sympathy for his silly posts. Please be kind.
 
I believe misterveritas is a _____ist of unknown term length, gentlemen, and I propose that he be given some sympathy for his silly posts. Please be kind.

Infraction coming unless you can delete that still...
 
And I made my point based upon experience, knowledge, and access to the SIPRnet. The difference is you made the initial claim. Can you back it up? No. Do you even know it to be a fact? No, you later admitted.

But you said it anyway, and that was ****ing dumb.
So you have an unsubstantiated claim. I understand. Perhaps you don't pay attention. Perhaps you have a hidden agenda. I canot tell. But this is boring. No one's mind will change. On to the next thing.
 
I believe misterveritas is a _____ist of unknown term length, gentlemen, and I propose that he be given some sympathy for his silly posts. Please be kind.

LOL. I think you deserve a good spanking. I shall plead for mercy on your behalf.
 
One term Marxist? 20 term Know-nothing? Billion year Sandinista? 14 second Green partier? Apparently, the reality of words means nothing. So I don't give a ****. Infract away! Or don't, because who cares what infract means.

Nor do I give a **** what bores a guy that makes up arguments. Who cares if you're bored? What you said was detritus. It's boring that someone told you that? Who gives a ****?
 
One term Marxist? 20 term Know-nothing? Billion year Sandinista? 14 second Green partier? Apparently, the reality of words means nothing. So I don't give a ****. Infract away! Or don't, because who cares what infract means.

Nor do I give a **** what bores a guy that makes up arguments. Who cares if you're bored? What you said was detritus. It's boring that someone told you that? Who gives a ****?
Perhaps you are unaware of just how angry you seem.
Relax, we don't agree. We never will. Enjoy it.

I do.
 
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I know you ****ing do! You made it!

HAHA that's ironic though!
I based my claim on that period of time between 2005 and the present where I have had, initially daily contact with my in-theater customer and later less frequent contact.

My opinion is not based upon a one comment but upon the change I have seen over the years. I served for twenty years. I know the game.

You have described your position from near perfect knowledge of the rules of engagement. You have never given anyone reason to believe you have anything other than passing familiarity with them. And yet you claim perfect (okay, near) knowledge.

I have given my opinion. Just between you and me, as I am certain no one else is reading this, you have not convinced me.

On to the next thing.
 
You don't the game, and that's unfortunate. But I guess you like to make things up.

Don't get so upset. It's fun to make things up.
 
Define your terms better. What is the goal? If the goal is to deny a sanctuary state then who cares how long we need to be there?

Except that you miss the point. If occupation of Afghanistan costs us more then the damage they could potentially do from using it to stage attacks, then they are still winning.
 
Except that you miss the point. If occupation of Afghanistan costs us more then the damage they could potentially do from using it to stage attacks, then they are still winning.
I suppose that could be a way to look at it. If the destruction of the World Trace Center and the murder of 3000 US citizens costs less than denying Afghanistan to Al Qaeda I suppose we should withdraw.

Naw. We should stay and kill Al Qaeda and other terrorists until they tire of the game and stop playing it.
 
I suppose that could be a way to look at it. If the destruction of the World Trace Center and the murder of 3000 US citizens costs less than denying Afghanistan to Al Qaeda I suppose we should withdraw.Naw. We should stay and kill Al Qaeda and other terrorists until they tire of the game and stop playing it.
Sounds real easy as long as it is someone else's nickel! Did you ever think about the quote, "you get older, not smarter."
 
Sounds real easy as long as it is someone else's nickel! Did you ever think about the quote, "you get older, not smarter."
Hi Dave, I love your short, almost nonsensical drive-bys. I do see how the quote you offered would be uppermost in your mind.
 
Sounds real easy as long as it is someone else's nickel! Did you ever think about the quote, "you get older, not smarter."

And it's sad to consider that some are not too smart to begin with. By the time old age rolls around there's not much left. ;)
 
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