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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    How many conservative Republicans can you name? Forty? Twenty?
    In Washington? I doubt there are that many. Definitely an endangered species, maybe even extinct, like the ivory billed woodpecker. Occasionally, there is an unconfirmed sighting, but no one is sure whether they even still exist or not.
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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    In Washington? I doubt there are that many. Definitely an endangered species, maybe even extinct, like the ivory billed woodpecker. Occasionally, there is an unconfirmed sighting, but no one is sure whether they even still exist or not.
    Interesting thought about the ivory-billed woodpecker. One day I saw a woodpecker outside my window on a tree about 30 feet away. It had a long, ivory-colored bill. I made a quick mental list of its crown, throat, chest, and wing flash as it flew away. I then raced to my office and searched the net. My bird turned out to be a RINO. It was a very common bird in these parts of the woods much as the RINO is in washington. The birds looked similar but one was rare. The other, is a nuisance.

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    So, no proof for your unbelievable claims then? Okay. It is what I expected. You have appealed to authority. You have claimed near perfect knowledge. So show us the documents. Darn. They are classified aren't they? So the only ones we can see are posted on Wikileaks.

    You cannot prove your claims. I cannot prove my claims. We know Bush. And we know Obama. My claims are more believable.

    Oh, I see you have a fanclub, of one, Hi Dave.
    You're the one that made the claim. Do you need to sit down or something? You can't even keep your own fabrications straight, you one term Marxist.
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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    LOL. Good point. We know him from the day he entered the Oval Office. All else remains hidden. I believe that is sufficient to make the case that he would make the Rules of Engagement so tight as to make it impossible to win.
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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I cannot recall ever mentioning democracy. Democracy sucks. It is three wolves and two lambs voting on what is for dinner.

    I think we need to define our goal as preventing the Taliban and Al Qaeda from controlling Afghanistan. For the long term I think developing free market capitalism and representative government are a great idea.
    That isn't a proposal, that is just a talking point. What can Afghanistan export to generate income for its people other than opium? Free Market capitalism doesn't mean **** when their is nothing for the economy to base itself on.
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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Democracy sucks.
    Someone should sig that.

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    I found this a great article on the Analysis of the war.
    this article was on Reuters Mobile (us.mobile.reuters.com) and thought you might find it interesting:

    Analysis: Afghanistan's peace hopes may rest on Taliban captive
    Analysis: Afghanistan's peace hopes may rest on Taliban captive | Reuters

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    A little off topic, but with the key role Pakistan plays in the conflict little analysis of the country has taken place.

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    That isn't a proposal, that is just a talking point. What can Afghanistan export to generate income for its people other than opium? Free Market capitalism doesn't mean **** when their is nothing for the economy to base itself on.

    The huge presence of Oxycontin and Hydrocodone indicates to me that Afghanistan and free market capitalism are hand in hand. Just because it is illegal doesn't mean it isn't done. Opium production went from approximately 290 tons per annum to over 7000 tons per annum under USA stewardship. The Media always says that the Talibun are growing the opium, but there was only 290 tons production when they were in control. You will recall that no bombs ever touched the well known opium warehouse near either Khost or Kandahar ( I don't remember exactly which of the two). I would expect that production to drop if the Taliban ever get influence in Kabul politics. My comment is just indicating that there is a product to base the economy on. Why hasn't the USA stopped this production. I would guess that we must be complicit and with a willing accomplice named Karzai.

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Joechilli View Post
    A little off topic, but with the key role Pakistan plays in the conflict little analysis of the country has taken place.
    Little analysis has taken place among whom? In the US government, Afghanistan and Pakistan are seen as inseparable. It's why most places don't have an Afghan shop or a Pakistan shop, they're usually called AFPAK shops.
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