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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Stop posting, you're embarrassing yourself, you 89 term Knickerbocker.

    Sometimes people that don't know anything feel determined to prove it, eh?

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Sometimes people that don't know anything feel determined to prove it, eh?
    That's why we have conspiracy theory.

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Stop posting, you're embarrassing yourself, you 89 term Knickerbocker.
    So, no proof for your unbelievable claims then? Okay. It is what I expected. You have appealed to authority. You have claimed near perfect knowledge. So show us the documents. Darn. They are classified aren't they? So the only ones we can see are posted on Wikileaks.

    You cannot prove your claims. I cannot prove my claims. We know Bush. And we know Obama. My claims are more believable.

    Oh, I see you have a fanclub, of one, Hi Dave.

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Sometimes people that don't know anything feel determined to prove it, eh?
    I completely agree with your assessment of OldWorld. But be as gentle with him as I am. He has made claims of near perfect knowledge. It is difficult to escape delusions that run that deep.

    My only claim is that the people I serve have complained of how difficult it is to fight with both arms tied behind their backs. I never heard that before the Bamster took over.

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    So, no proof for your unbelievable claims then? Okay. It is what I expected. You have appealed to authority. You have claimed near perfect knowledge. So show us the documents. Darn. They are classified aren't they? So the only ones we can see are posted on Wikileaks.

    You cannot prove your claims. I cannot prove my claims. We know Bush. And we know Obama. My claims are more believable.

    Oh, I see you have a fanclub, of one, Hi Dave.
    wait...we know Obama? i thought he was hiding his college transcripts and true beliefs from us? and his birth certificate?

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Crossroads View Post
    wait...we know Obama? i thought he was hiding his college transcripts and true beliefs from us? and his birth certificate?
    LOL. Good point. We know him from the day he entered the Oval Office. All else remains hidden. I believe that is sufficient to make the case that he would make the Rules of Engagement so tight as to make it impossible to win.

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Good deceptions have that effect. I was an intelligence officer for most of my 20 year Army career. I also had some responsibilities for developing our deception doctrine. It was valuable to have one's opponents sift through all of the difficult, conflicting information in order to come, on their own, to the conclusions the deceivers want them to hold. Once your opponent is convinced, through his own brilliance, that Fact "A" is true and Fact "B" is untrue conflicting facts that counter those views are filtered out.

    I believe that we became convinced because the scientists and program managers responsible for biological, chemical and nuclear weapons programs were deceiving Hussein. In turn we were deceived as well.

    On the plus side it has a happy ending. Iraq has an opportunity to grow into a free, and thriving country in the heart of the Middle East.
    I understand you now,

    Your actually very pro-American but in a way that's particularly nasty if not imperialist.
    You don't see that setting an example as being a tyrant has it's counter effects. You probably also don't realise that most of the US is an undesirable crime ridden sh#thole.

    First of all the UK Govt will never LIE for you like that again. You used them for the UN vote, they will never risk such worldwide unpopularity again for nothing in return unless there totally stupid.

    In your thinking Deception is really another word for being treacherous.
    You may love the short term benefits but every thief has it's day.

    Your analysis of long term goals I feel lacks. Toppling Hussein was the good thing the rest of the conflict was simply not worth it. The same with Bin Laden, you should have left after the Northern Alliance had smacked the hell out of the Taliban. But no, let's stay 10 years to see ourselves decline. You do not understand the Afghani mentality in the slightest.

    As my link earlier, the Iraq insurgency are killing still goes on just as it did. And so will the Taliban with or without you.

    You seem to think 'forever' is the answer despite Iraq and Vietnam. You also don't get the idea that these terrorists are mainly based in Pakistan. You're not fighting a country anymore, your fighting a dispersed idea, a safe haven is in Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia and elsewhere. Unless your going to throw down 4-5 front-lines which you can't afford in any case your proposition is futile.

    You need to move with the action, not put down a forever marker. And FYI the Russians weren't pussies it was and has always been a futile war.

    You have become the Redcoats marching out from Boston and your too stubborn to see it.

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Then you won't mind if we try it just this one more time. After all, from your perspective it will make no difference. So let's agree to replace Democrats and RINOS with conservative Republicans.
    Because conservative Republicans are an endangered species in Washington.
    "Donald Trump is a phony, a fraud... [he's] playing the American public for suckers." Mitt Romney

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Joechilli View Post
    I understand you now,

    Your actually very pro-American but in a way that's particularly nasty if not imperialist.
    You don't see that setting an example as being a tyrant has it's counter effects. You probably also don't realise that most of the US is an undesirable crime ridden sh#thole.

    First of all the UK Govt will never LIE for you like that again. You used them for the UN vote, they will never risk such worldwide unpopularity again for nothing in return unless there totally stupid.

    In your thinking Deception is really another word for being treacherous.
    You may love the short term benefits but every thief has it's day.

    Your analysis of long term goals I feel lacks. Toppling Hussein was the good thing the rest of the conflict was simply not worth it. The same with Bin Laden, you should have left after the Northern Alliance had smacked the hell out of the Taliban. But no, let's stay 10 years to see ourselves decline. You do not understand the Afghani mentality in the slightest.

    As my link earlier, the Iraq insurgency are killing still goes on just as it did. And so will the Taliban with or without you.

    You seem to think 'forever' is the answer despite Iraq and Vietnam. You also don't get the idea that these terrorists are mainly based in Pakistan. You're not fighting a country anymore, your fighting a dispersed idea, a safe haven is in Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia and elsewhere. Unless your going to throw down 4-5 front-lines which you can't afford in any case your proposition is futile.

    You need to move with the action, not put down a forever marker. And FYI the Russians weren't pussies it was and has always been a futile war.

    You have become the Redcoats marching out from Boston and your too stubborn to see it.
    How depressing. I just spent an hour responding to this. The board said "nope" as I posted it and my effort is gone. Maybe tomorrow. I have a few other things I want to do today.

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Because conservative Republicans are an endangered species in Washington.
    How many conservative Republicans can you name? Forty? Twenty?

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