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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Polling that shows a remarkably high % of Americans believe Iraq was involved in 9/11. I wonder where they got that idea from?
    Left-wing media...people like you...hmmm.

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Link please.
    I should tell you that I have been supporting the American forces fighting in both Iraq and Afghanistan. We were never allowed to see the rules of engagement. We did not have a need to know. But we could tell the difference after the Obama Administration came to power.

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Do you think you can find official rules of engagement that are not classified? Provide a link. I am prepared to read them.
    That sounds like a non sequitur. I'm telling you flat out: I have no knowledge of any ROE that changed when Obama took over. And I'm certain I'm much closer to the situation than you are.

    You could try to prove me wrong. Or I'll just have to be content with what I know. Neither bothers me much, but then I'm not an ideologue.
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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    But we could tell the difference after the Obama Administration came to power.
    Oh, so you don't know.

    That explains a lot.
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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Yes. Really. Fortunately all is not yet lost. Saddam Hussein was deposed, tried, and executed. Violence was way down until we declared victory left in a substantial way.

    Regime change was pretty clear. It worked in Iraq. It will work here.
    So, you're in favor of a foreign military invading our country and hanging the president.

    Which country do you favor to do this?
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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    That sounds like a non sequitur. I'm telling you flat out: I have no knowledge of any ROE that changed when Obama took over. And I'm certain I'm much closer to the situation than you are.

    You could try to prove me wrong. Or I'll just have to be content with what I know. Neither bothers me much, but then I'm not an ideologue.
    It is possible you were in Iraq and in Afghanistan multiple times between 2005 and today. I cannot tell. I can tell you that my company had people with the troops in about 50 locations in both countries steadily. They live and work with the troops. They tell me that we seldom engage unless we have been fired upon and can positively determine upon whom we should return fire.

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    So, you're in favor of a foreign military invading our country and hanging the president.

    Which country do you favor to do this?
    We have a policy of regime change. The one term Marxist will be defeated in another month. It is possible this election to have a regime change.

    He has committed crimes worthy of impeachment.

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Oh, so you don't know.

    That explains a lot.
    You could pay attention. Or maybe you cannot. The evidence is for the latter. Since you are sure the rules of engagement are unclassified and that you are completely sure they have not changed could you share them?

    Let me see what I find in a search. Rules of engagement Iraq Hmmm. Secret. Who woulda thunk it.

    Wikileaks has obtained the long kept secret Rules of Engagement (ROE) for U.S. troops in Iraq.
    Wikileaks has obtained the long kept secret Rules of Engagement (ROE) for U.S. troops in Iraq.
    Secret. Hmmm.
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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    That sounds like a non sequitur. I'm telling you flat out: I have no knowledge of any ROE that changed when Obama took over. And I'm certain I'm much closer to the situation than you are.

    You could try to prove me wrong.
    Or I'll just have to be content with what I know. Neither bothers me much, but then I'm not an ideologue.
    You need not be an ideologue to be wrong. Clearly.

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Don't have time to read every post. Seen a few really stupid answers. Going just by armed combat "wars", where the US was a volunteer participant, and it ain't close, the dumbest war was:

    1) The Civil War. Completely avoidable by Lincoln.

    Beyond that:

    2) Vietnam. 58K Americans killed for nothing. A million or more Vietnamese. For nothing. Afghanistan and Iraq pale by those numbers.

    3) The War of 1812. Pointless. Unnecessary. Nothing gained.

    Afghanistan and Iraq are quite mild compared to the above debacles. <<<<<< but they are stupid too. Bring our boys and girls home.

    OK, now most justified wars ever.

    1) The Revolutionary War.

    2) WWII. Hitler was evil.

    3) King Phillips War (more Americans per capita, though we were not "America" yet, lost their lives in this one than in any other war we have been in).

    4) WWI. Germany was not evil then.

    5) Rolling up the Indians. Sorry, but they were a far lesser culture, in the way of collective advancement of America. Unavoidable.

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