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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    You can explain this, why do left wing wackos believe that anyone believes that Iraq was involved in the destruction of the Twin Towers, WTC7 and portions of the Pentagon?

    Our policy was regime change (same as now with the Obama Administration). There were adequate reasons for destroying Hussein.
    Polling that shows a remarkably high % of Americans believe Iraq was involved in 9/11. I wonder where they got that idea from?
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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    It took the Russians 8 or 9 years to realize they were not going to prevail in Afghanistan.

    We Americans are much brighter than they, and know that we will prevail in 25 years. Simple, eh?

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Indeed we are. And we shall be for the next hundred years. He still declared victory and fled. I suppose that was for public consumption.


    Maybe. Maybe not. We solved a problem. We had a victory in hand that could have stabilized a portion of that region for a generation or more. But the one term Marxist gave up the certain victory for something less.
    We had a victory in hand in Iraq? Really?

    and, what were the criteria for that victory? How did we know we were about to win if there were no clear goals in that war?
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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    What do you want to do? Nuke 'em? The only way to "win" in Vietnam or Afghanistan was to kill everyone there. Is that your point?
    Neither country is EVER going to be our puppet as long as any are alive to pick up a gun.
    Thats not the only way. Our goal is to prevent Afghanistan from being used as a base for terrorists. Acomplishing that is as simple as building a base to protect our people, and then using it to launch attacks on any terrorists. What the Afghanis do beyond that is their problem. We dont have to build roads or make friends. We leave them alone, they leave us alone.

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Viet Nam
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    Iraq

    The War on Drugs

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Afghanistan

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Thats not the only way. Our goal is to prevent Afghanistan from being used as a base for terrorists. Acomplishing that is as simple as building a base to protect our people, and then using it to launch attacks on any terrorists. What the Afghanis do beyond that is their problem. We dont have to build roads or make friends. We leave them alone, they leave us alone.
    I think we just need to keep the drones flying and the men that maintain them can stay safe at the base. No more going out in the population to be a target.

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Whose ROE? Cause I'm just about certain that that isn't the case.
    Do you think you can find official rules of engagement that are not classified? Provide a link. I am prepared to read them.

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    We had a victory in hand in Iraq? Really?

    and, what were the criteria for that victory? How did we know we were about to win if there were no clear goals in that war?
    Yes. Really. Fortunately all is not yet lost. Saddam Hussein was deposed, tried, and executed. Violence was way down until we declared victory left in a substantial way.

    Regime change was pretty clear. It worked in Iraq. It will work here.

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    It took the Russians 8 or 9 years to realize they were not going to prevail in Afghanistan.

    We Americans are much brighter than they, and know that we will prevail in 25 years. Simple, eh?
    If we believe our goal is to dominate and pacify the people of Afghanistan as the Soviets tried to do then you would be right. If our goal is to prevent Al Qaeda and the Taliban from having a safe haven then you are wrong. We should stay there, killing terrorists for as long as it takes. I believe that will be at least the next fifty years.

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