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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    What do you want to do? Nuke 'em? The only way to "win" in Vietnam or Afghanistan was to kill everyone there. Is that your point?
    Neither country is EVER going to be our puppet as long as any are alive to pick up a gun.
    One must match the goals to our needs. Our goal should be to deny safe haven to terrorists. I do not know the right troop levels to accomplish that. But the professionals do.

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    It's sad, but understandable that you hold this view, because your job as a contractor benefits directly from this situation. For the rest of us who can view the situation objectively, it's madness.

    It's people like you that are the reason we're in this situation in the first place. War is a business, and business is goooood.
    Do you love your country so little that you want her to be safe for only a little while? Why do you put a time limit on the security of the nation?

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    At least you didn't attempt to give a way we could have won in Vietnam short of nuking them. You would have looked even more foolish.
    We lost in Vietnam and Iraq the minute we sent troops there. We went to Afghanistan to get Bin Laden and Alqeada..... mission accomplished...time to go home.
    We can leave the drones there though. Just the targets for the Taliban need to leave.
    I think your statements about war are shallow and vapid. We must match our goals to our needs. We only have trouble when we lose sight of why we are there.

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Regardless of the cause for it, the war in afghanistan is NOT going well for us.
    How do you know that?

    Is Afghanistan a safe haven? Is there any price we should pay for safety?

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    How do you know that?

    Is Afghanistan a safe haven? Is there any price we should pay for safety?
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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    I think before one engages on Afghanistan, one should ask the person if they are a Truther. Debating with a Truther about Afghanistan is ridiculous.

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I think before one engages on Afghanistan, one should ask the person if they are a Truther.
    What is a Truther?

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    What is a Truther?
    Someone who believes that 9/11 was an inside job. Debating such a person about Afghanistan is ludicrous. They don't accept the premise of the war and you want to discuss results?

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    We abandoned Vietnam and they folded. Nothing near that has happened in Iraq. We still have troops there, you know.

    btw, I don't think it was a glorious day for the South Vietnamese we left to the actions and punishments of the North.
    Vietnam is a trading partner with the U.S. and there are 2 non-stop flights a day to Hanoi from L.A. I'de say they have become a model country compared to Iraq.
    The shiite Govt. has closer ties with Tehran than Washington which is not surprising since most of them are Iraqi exiles who grew up in Iran. They don't have Alqeada because they left when our troops did. No more targets. I irony of the Iraqi blunder is not that it was a hopeless quagmire (like Vietnam) but we were actually helping our only REAL enemy in the region, by defeating Iran's mortal enemy. It was like poking a stick into the hornets nest...and then hanging around while the swarm stings you silly.

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    Re: America’s Dumbest War, Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I think your statements about war are shallow and vapid. We must match our goals to our needs. We only have trouble when we lose sight of why we are there.
    I made no statements about war. And when was the last war where we even knew what our objectives were in the first place, no less "lose sight" of them?

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