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    Re: 14 Wacky "Facts" Kids Will Learn in Louisiana's Voucher Schools

    Yeah, it's very conducive to building families when the mother doesn't marry the baby-daddy(ies) because she would lose government support. Yet another gift of the progressive ideas of the 20th century.

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    Re: 14 Wacky "Facts" Kids Will Learn in Louisiana's Voucher Schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    It takes a special kind of apologist to try and downplay the evil that was slavery. Usually they are either ignorant of history or closet racists. So you gotta be careful cause you might confuse outright ignorant folks with racists. In this school's case, the claim is that it wasn't that bad because they weren't beaten daily! Oh great! What a relief. I guess that makes up for being bred, sold and treated like cattle; then having their cultural history and family structures destroyed. I guess it also makes up for 300+ years of zero or near zero amount of rights. Yeah, slavery wasn't as bad as they paint it! I'm convinced now!

    The biggest myth told by the conservative right is that it was the progressive ideas of the mid 20th century that destroyed the black family structure. As if it had existed in full force during the 17th century or even after.

    I see... so if a person points out a slave owner did not beat, abuse, or kill their slaves.. that is supposed to be an endorsement of slavery?

    interesting logic.

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    Re: 14 Wacky "Facts" Kids Will Learn in Louisiana's Voucher Schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    Yeah, it's very conducive to building families when the mother doesn't marry the baby-daddy(ies) because she would lose government support. Yet another gift of the progressive ideas of the 20th century.
    Strange you should mention that, I know a "family" that did just that for that exact reason. Even though they never married, when their 13 yo daughter came home knocked up, they did insist she marry the father. Although they did allow her to drop out of school. She miscarried, but she is still now 14, married and is not getting any education. Gee, wonder if she is going to be on the welfare roles the rest of her life?
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    Re: 14 Wacky "Facts" Kids Will Learn in Louisiana's Voucher Schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    I see... so if a person points out a slave owner did not beat, abuse, or kill their slaves.. that is supposed to be an endorsement of slavery?

    interesting logic.
    If you think that screws up their logic, wait until you bring up the fact that the majority of the slaves sold out of Africa were people captured during tribal warfare, by other Black Africans and instead of being killed out of hand, they were sold, thus being a slave actually saved their life. Because of this, Black Africans were also the core of and enabled the continuance of slavery.
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    Re: 14 Wacky "Facts" Kids Will Learn in Louisiana's Voucher Schools

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    If you think that screws up their logic, wait until you bring up the fact that the majority of the slaves sold out of Africa were people captured during tribal warfare, by other Black Africans and instead of being killed out of hand, they were sold, thus being a slave actually saved their life. Because of this, Black Africans were also the core of and enabled the continuance of slavery.
    well, i'm not gonna get into a slavery discussion... I'm just saying it's ok to tell the truth about things and telling the truth doesn't equal support.

    if folks want to believe that every slave as abused, beaten, or killed... fine by me.... it's not true, but they are free to believe as they will.

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    Re: 14 Wacky "Facts" Kids Will Learn in Louisiana's Voucher Schools

    I distrust the article. This article is a smear-article from the partisan Left. If people are to take this "issue" seriously, please provide evidence from sources that are far more objective and respectful.

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    Re: 14 Wacky "Facts" Kids Will Learn in Louisiana's Voucher Schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    I see... so if a person points out a slave owner did not beat, abuse, or kill their slaves.. that is supposed to be an endorsement of slavery?

    interesting logic.
    Try learning the definitions of apologetic before you debate "logic":

    a·pol·o·get·ic (-pl-jtk) also a·pol·o·get·i·cal (--kl)
    adj.
    1. Offering or expressing an apology or excuse: an apologetic note; an apologetic smile.
    2. Self-deprecating; humble: an apologetic manner.
    3. Serving as or containing a formal justification or defense: an apologetic treatise on church doctrine.

    MaggieD most certainly provided an excuse for why slavery wasn't all 'that bad' even though it's been widely accepted that the effects of slavery rank up there with the holocaust and the extermination of native americans.
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    Re: 14 Wacky "Facts" Kids Will Learn in Louisiana's Voucher Schools

    6. The KKK was A-OK: "[The Ku Klux] Klan in some areas of the country tried to be a means of reform, fighting the decline in morality and using the symbol of the cross. Klan targets were bootleggers, wife-beaters, and immoral movies. In some communities it achieved a certain respectability as it worked with politicians." —United States History for Christian Schools, 3rd ed., Bob Jones University Press, 2001
    There's some historical truth to this, so this article's distortion of this point only adds more weight against it.

    In short, it's a garbage article.

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    Re: 14 Wacky "Facts" Kids Will Learn in Louisiana's Voucher Schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    well, i'm not gonna get into a slavery discussion... I'm just saying it's ok to tell the truth about things and telling the truth doesn't equal support.

    if folks want to believe that every slave as abused, beaten, or killed... fine by me.... it's not true, but they are free to believe as they will.
    If people want to ignore the past..fine by me..it happened. You'd wonder why they are called Slaves--it doesn't have a positive connotation what-so-ever
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    Re: 14 Wacky "Facts" Kids Will Learn in Louisiana's Voucher Schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    There's some historical truth to this, so this article's distortion of this point only adds more weight against it.

    In short, it's a garbage article.
    Good to hear. There's also some historical truth in saying not all Nazis were for the extermination of Jews. However, we all know what Nazis were known for. So introducing that 'historical truth' as anything other than the 3rd equivalent of a fun fact is outright dishonest.
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