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Mom sues police/neighbor after she is arrested for letting her kids play outsi.[w:63]

Re: Mom sues police and neighbor after she is arrested for letting her kids play outs

In my neighborhood, it's not that they ride them in the street -- they ride them down the sidewalk. Again, if the neighbor's not psychotic, there's more to the story. Moms don't get thrown in jail for no reason at all.

Oh I'm sure that there's more to it but the charges are what they are and based on what's been presented so far they don't hold water. In fact, they don't hold water so much that they were dropped.

If I had to guess it would be that the kids did something and the neighbor yelled at them. After that there were probably words between the adult parties and somebody chose to call in a favor from a friend just to show that she shouldn't be messed with.
 
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Of course she, is why not????

Last thing anyone needs is someone who cannot mind their own business. The police may not be liable, but, this pickle nose neighbor's homeowners policy is probably going to have to defend her then seek to recoup their funds from this knucklehead.

...no one needs a Gladys Kravitz...:lol:

Ha!! I loved that show!
 
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When the hell did we decide, as a society, that a 6 and 9 year outside their own home cannot play unsupervised? Many of you seem to be conceding that if this Mommy had not been outside, with "eyes on" at all times, she WAS guilty of child endangerment.

When my kid was 9, I was enrolled in the Tax Law program at the University of Florida, and I allowed her to roam the whole campus. She would bike to the lake, or explode the woods, or just ride. (I actually regret this now and think I was too cavalier about her safety.) Should I turn myself in to the cops as a neglectful mother now, ya think?

It would never even occur to me to call the cops because there are children outside in my housing association today whose parents I can't see. I think this is preposterous unless the family lives in a condo next to I-75.
 
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When the hell did we decide, as a society, that a 6 and 9 year outside their own home cannot play unsupervised? Many of you seem to be conceding that if this Mommy had not been outside, with "eyes on" at all times, she WAS guilty of child endangerment.

When my kid was 9, I was enrolled in the Tax Law program at the University of Florida, and I allowed her to roam the whole campus. She would bike to the lake, or explode the woods, or just ride. (I actually regret this now and think I was too cavalier about her safety.) Should I turn myself in to the cops as a neglectful mother now, ya think?

It would never even occur to me to call the cops because there are children outside in my housing association today whose parents I can't see. I think this is preposterous unless the family lives in a condo next to I-75.

Pinkie the one who called the police lied to them about hitting one of the children with her car. There was nothing the mother did that was wrong.
 
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Pinkie the one who called the police lied to them about hitting one of the children with her car. There was nothing the mother did that was wrong.

I saw that (man, this is one creepy story). I'm just startled and amazed anyone thinks we can call the cops and report child neglect if one of our neighbors allows his kids out to play unsupervised.

Kids don't play the same when their parents are "eyes on", and I'm shocked that anyone thinks depriving them of this freedom is desirable, nevermind legally required.
 
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The neighbor called the cops alleging she hit one of the children with her car , it turned out to be a false report....

According to this rendition of what occurred apparent an expert from the complaint, "Unknown Officer went across the street to talk with defendant Fuller. It was at this point that Fuller reported, for the first time, that she had struck one of Cooper's children with her vehicle as they played in the street," the complaint states. "Unknown Officer returned to Cooper's home, and after another conversation with Unknown Officer, Cooper was placed under arrest for the felony offenses of child endangerment and child abandonment.

Never at any point were any of Cooper's children hit by a car as they played in the street. Moreover, Cooper was observing her children the entire time they were outside on the date of her arrest and thus could not plausibly have abandoned them. Despite the fact that Fuller alleged she had hit one of the children with her vehicle, no medical response was called for or needed as it was obvious that neither child had been hit by a car or was hurt in any way. Interestingly, Fuller was never confronted about her lie regarding striking the child with the car."

https://www.courthousenews.com/2012/09/07/50051.htm

Maybe somebody knows somebody on the police force and called in a hit.
 
Re: Mom sues police and neighbor after she is arrested for letting her kids play outs

Of course she, is why not????

Last thing anyone needs is someone who cannot mind their own business. The police may not be liable, but, this pickle nose neighbor's homeowners policy is probably going to have to defend her then seek to recoup their funds from this knucklehead.

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...no one needs a Gladys Kravitz...:lol:

No, a homeowner's policy would not cover any of this. I doubt the lawsuit goes anywhere anyone. A person has near total civil lawsuit immunity for calling the police about anything. However, the police could prosecute for a false police report. A liable/slander suit would exist if the neighbor told other people and not just the police.
 
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I've been looking at Pakistan, and even that is not going well. They're not very interested in Americans being there at the moment. Especially ones who claim to want to stay permanently.

Your not trying hard enough, just insult their profet. They will change their tune in a heartbeat. :) They will be more than happy to keep you permanmately. I wouldnt vouche for your happines though.:cool:
 
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Yes, if the mom is telling the truth, then it is absurd, but we don't know yet if she is being truthful or not. It's her word against the police and the neighbor. I find it hard to believe that the police would have arrested her if she was sitting in her lawn chair watching her children as she claimed.
 
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No, a homeowner's policy would not cover any of this. I doubt the lawsuit goes anywhere anyone. A person has near total civil lawsuit immunity for calling the police about anything. However, the police could prosecute for a false police report. A liable/slander suit would exist if the neighbor told other people and not just the police.

Depends on what is purchased, but, yes home owners umbrella policy is the the right policy that would be triggered. The woman had $7000 in legal fees because of the neighbor's false police report.
 
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Maybe somebody knows somebody on the police force and called in a hit.

Yes, if the mom is telling the truth, then it is absurd, but we don't know yet if she is being truthful or not. It's her word against the police and the neighbor. I find it hard to believe that the police would have arrested her if she was sitting in her lawn chair watching her children as she claimed.

It has already been established that the neighbor lied to the police about hitting the child and the mother was not doing anything wrong. "The unsubstantiated felony charges against her were dismissed" and "Child Protective Services found no cause for concern regarding the well being of Cooper’s children and dropped the investigation."
 
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It has already been established that the neighbor lied to the police about hitting the child and the mother was not doing anything wrong. "The unsubstantiated felony charges against her were dismissed" and "Child Protective Services found no cause for concern regarding the well being of Cooper’s children and dropped the investigation."

I thought it was about her leaving the children unattended. I guess I skimmed over too fast, because I missed the part about abuse. I wonder why the police would arrest someone with nothing but the word of a neighbor? The whole thing sounds pretty ridiculous to me.
 
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Depends on what is purchased, but, yes home owners umbrella policy is the the right policy that would be triggered. The woman had $7000 in legal fees because of the neighbor's false police report.

Making a false police report, harrassment, slander, invasion of privacy, etc. are all intentional torts, and most of the time the homeowner's insurance policy will not cover them. It would be contrary to public policy if they did.
 
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It has already been established that the neighbor lied to the police about hitting the child and the mother was not doing anything wrong. "The unsubstantiated felony charges against her were dismissed" and "Child Protective Services found no cause for concern regarding the well being of Cooper’s children and dropped the investigation."

Don't you find it odd that the neighbor could report (falsely or not) that she had struck a 6 or 9 year old with her car and yet wasn't arrested for leaving the scene, hit and run, etc.?
 
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I hope the police are successfully sued.
 
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I will say this. Calling the police would happen only AFTER junior had been dragged back to your front door on a previous occasion and you wife informed "Please keep your TRASH out of my yard." Considering the fact that there would be both "No Solicitation" and "No Tresspassing" signs on the property, if not a fence also, I'd like to think your children would be taught to respect either or both. As for the fact that these kids were in the street (rather than on the sidewalk where they belonged).... My car would probably not suffer too much damage from accidentally hitting one of them if they darted out in the wrong spot at the wrong time.

1. These kids weren't in anyone else's yard.
2. Calling someone's kids 'trash' is a good way to get ones' face smashed. certainly it is not obedience to the social laws that you claim to be a proponent of.
3. <<Edited after I saw the warning. But most of you can probably guess.>>
 
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Making a false police report, harrassment, slander, invasion of privacy, etc. are all intentional torts, and most of the time the homeowner's insurance policy will not cover them. It would be contrary to public policy if they did.

The duty to defend is greater than the duty to indemnify. As I stated they will seek to recoup on defense costs should she have purchased this type of coverage in her homeowners policy. People generally do it is inexpensive and the coverage is adequate for these types of activities.
 
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Don't you find it odd that the neighbor could report (falsely or not) that she had struck a 6 or 9 year old with her car and yet wasn't arrested for leaving the scene, hit and run, etc.?

I find the whole thing strange; procedurally, it was poor police work: an accident and no medical personnel were in attendance, the neighbor was not confronted about her story the police only went to the mother and arrested her.
 
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Yes, I am. I find little of value in this country anymore and while I am not a Muslem or Arabic by ancestory, I find their way of life much more pleasant than what the society here has to offer.
Honestly, I think you would be unpleasantly surprised if you were to move there.


When the hell did we decide, as a society, that a 6 and 9 year outside their own home cannot play unsupervised? Many of you seem to be conceding that if this Mommy had not been outside, with "eyes on" at all times, she WAS guilty of child endangerment.
Exactly. Most neighborhoods are completely acceptable for kids of that age to play in without being literally within sight at all moments.
 
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1. These kids weren't in anyone else's yard.
2. Calling someone's kids 'trash' is a good way to get ones' face smashed. certainly it is not obedience to the social laws that you claim to be a proponent of.

They were in the street, which is almost as bad. Especially since most kids pay no attention to the traffic until they're on the hood of someone's car.
Letting your kids wander the neighborhood like gypsies is a good way for them to end up disappearing PERMANENTLY. Respect for others only occurs when they have respect for me to begin with. Being on my property without my permission is not being respectful.

Honestly, I think you would be unpleasantly surprised if you were to move there.

It can't really be any worse than what I deal with here on a daily basis.
 
Re: Mom sues police and neighbor after she is arrested for letting her kids play outs

There is more to this story than has been told.There are some mothers that let their children do anything.There are some people who shown no respect for law enforcement.
 
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My response was to your saying you would have "dragged" the child to the house and then calling the child "your trash" to the mother.

IF she saw a 38 year old man "dragging" one of our children - or any child - the first that person who know she saw this would be with a laser sight on his chest and her SCREAMING "LET GO OF THAT CHILD AND MOVE BACK OR I WILL KILL YOU!" She is well rehearsed, literally, in situational training with officers in civilian dress, to do exactly that in a threat situation. She also is trained to have instinct reaction of actually firing by actually doing so using rounds with paintballs. 3 shots - chest-head-chest faster than the person could hit the ground. She is extraordinarily skilled.

The last time I saw someone physically abusing a little child - now 8 years ago - under the store's video camera I broke both windows of a C-store beer cooler with his face and spent nearly 2 weeks in jail while they waited to see if he technically remained alive. He did, they let me go, and told me they wish they could do such as that to child abusers, but as officers they can't. I have a couple very deep "phobias" and one is men who hurt children. The other is men who poise a threat to me.

Child on a person's yard hurts nothing - unless they are damaging the yard - so don't live in a neighborhood with children or DO fence your yard if seeing children outside is intolerable. We often have more children in our yard than we can count, though we live in a remote location with only the river and woodland swamp next door.

There is a fundamental difference between someone who sees children playing outside and smiles thinking "oh how sweet" offering them cookies and someone who frowns and mumbles "damn little brats!" calling the police. My lady is the former. You seem the latter.

What was the guy doing, if you don't mind me asking? Was it just a spanking or was he actually beating up/strangling the kid? If it were the former that would be excessive, if it were the latter, no problem.
 
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I disagree. Having that child on my property places me at risk of liability if Sweet Lil Suzie falls and breaks her arm or the like. Trust me, the sorts of places I would prefer to live would not have children in the neighborhood, or would allow for me to have the sort of fence I want. Not everyone has those options.

It depends. It's not you're job to babysit someone else' kids. If they were just playing and Suzie just happened to fall over no reasonable person would sue you over that. If you had a hyena in the yard with no leash and it mauled Suzie that's a different story.
 
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They were in the street, which is almost as bad. Especially since most kids pay no attention to the traffic until they're on the hood of someone's car.
Letting your kids wander the neighborhood like gypsies is a good way for them to end up disappearing PERMANENTLY. Respect for others only occurs when they have respect for me to begin with. Being on my property without my permission is not being respectful.



It can't really be any worse than what I deal with here on a daily basis.

Do you have any children?

35 years ago mine ran the streets of the subdivion until dark.. riding their bikes, fishing in the nearby clay pits, rollerskating and testing themselves against the world.

Its more dangerous now.. Many children cannot play in their front yard without parental supervision.

This mother was sitting in the yard while her kids rode their bikes.. Do you get it?
 
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