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    Re: Mom sues police and neighbor after she is arrested for letting her kids play outs

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Teh kids were probably in teh street because some retard yelled at them for being in his "yard" while they were on the sidewalk.
    They can be on the sidewalk. That's part of the public Right of Way (ROW). That's fine. In this area, the back of the sidewalk is generally the edge of the ROW; which means that once they're off my side of the concrete, they ARE on my property. They also have their own yard to play in.

    Of course, my personal preference is for the 8-10' tall wood fence around my entire property, so it's not an issue; but that's not always possible.

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    Re: Mom sues police and neighbor after she is arrested for letting her kids play outs

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Teh kids were probably in teh street because some retard yelled at them for being in his "yard" while they were on the sidewalk.
    Excellent comment.

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    Re: Mom sues police and neighbor after she is arrested for letting her kids play outs

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    They can be on the sidewalk. That's part of the public Right of Way (ROW). That's fine. In this area, the back of the sidewalk is generally the edge of the ROW; which means that once they're off my side of the concrete, they ARE on my property. They also have their own yard to play in.

    Of course, my personal preference is for the 8-10' tall wood fence around my entire property, so it's not an issue; but that's not always possible.
    I'm confident that would be your neighbor's preference too.

    Without a fence, kids can be on your property all they want to. To secure property it has to be fenced. A fence is presumed to be a keep out notice. Otherwise it takes specific command to secure land. This would not apply to community owned property such as a condo complex.

    A no trespassing sign without a fence is not sufficient as there is no indication of where the property line is.
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    Re: Mom sues police and neighbor after she is arrested for letting her kids play outs

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    You would end up dead or in the hospital. I mean this 100% literally. If she had not shot and killed you for seeing you having your hands on her child, I would send you to the hospital with many broken bones, where you would be arrested for assaulting a child - whether you had or not. She would kill you. She is highly trained and conditioned in action and reaction in real life situational practice and is an exorbitantly fast and accurate shot. She is not a people-friendly person in general and since she was very violently assaulted (prior to being a gun owner) she does draw down on a person very fast - and has done so since more than once.
    I would like to think that someone with that level of interest in personal responsibility would have taught their children to stay off of other people's property as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Sometimes your I hate children and I want to physically hurt children messages are annoying and make you SOUND like a crazy dangerous old man. Of course, I don't really know you but by your messages. I do recall your asking about hitting other people's children because you wanted to do so for not likely how they were acting around you.
    I don't hate children and I have no desire to physically injure children. HOWEVER, I have no use for children who cannot or will not stay where they are supposed to be, obey "no tresspassing" signs, and obey ANY adult who tells them to get the hell out of their yard. Unfortunately that makes me a very rare person in this day and age. The discussion about disciplining other people's children was related to relatives of my girlfriend who we were spending large amounts of time around. We are no longer spending any significant amount of time around those children, so it's no longer an issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Most neighborhoods have a mean, crazy old asshole. Sometimes they do hurt or kill someone because they are violently crazy. They are the curse of the neighborhood. Some times it is instead the crazy old man who is killed when he goes nuts. Crazy old men who hate children are the most dangerous of all.
    I am neither crazy nor old (38). I don't hate children.... I hate ANYONE of ANY AGE who cannot or will not obey the rules. It's not the age but the inability to do what they should be doing which creates the hatred.

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    It is ILLEGAL for children to ride a bike on the sidewalk. They are required to be in the street. It is not illegal to be on foot, on a bicycle or on an unmotorized scooter on the street.
    When it comes to a bicycle, you are correct; however they are REQUIRED to follow all vehicular laws. At least in this part of the world it IS illegal in most places for people to be on scooters, skateboards, roller skates, or on foot in the middle of the road (except when crossing the street at approved cross-walks).

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    This was a quiet deadend of a residential cul-de-sac and the mother outside watching them. That's why people move to them and seeing children on bikes or playing basketball with the hoop set up at someone's yard is common.
    I grew up near one end of a "horseshoe" road in my hometown. Very little traffic, since the only "exit" to the neighborhood came out on the same street they'd entered from. It was all "local" traffic at low speed. If my brothers or I had ever gotten caught playing in the street rather than in our own yard, we would have been in extremely deep trouble.

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    Re: Mom sues police and neighbor after she is arrested for letting her kids play outs

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    They can be on the sidewalk. That's part of the public Right of Way (ROW). That's fine. In this area, the back of the sidewalk is generally the edge of the ROW; which means that once they're off my side of the concrete, they ARE on my property. They also have their own yard to play in.

    Of course, my personal preference is for the 8-10' tall wood fence around my entire property, so it's not an issue; but that's not always possible.
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    Re: Mom sues police and neighbor after she is arrested for letting her kids play outs

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I'm confident that would be your neighbor's preference too.
    Probably.

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Without a fence, kids can be on your property all they want to. To secure property it has to be fenced. A fence is presumed to be a keep out notice. Otherwise it takes specific command to secure land. This would not apply to community owned property such as a condo complex.
    Obviously the condo complex is a totally different situation. I do have a small piece of property outside my sliding door that I've been told is mine o do with as I please, but I've just left it alone because I don't go outside very often. Then again most kids probably wouldn't find most of my property very intersting, even without a fence. I have absolutely no use for grass, plants, or trees. Any property I ever own will likely be covered in concrete to ensure there is no need for any yardwork beyond snow-plowing.

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    A no trespassing sign without a fence is not sufficient as there is no indication of where the property line is.
    I think that might vary from place to place. Then again the "CAUTION: Minefield" sign might be more useful in that situation anyway ;-)

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    Re: Mom sues police and neighbor after she is arrested for letting her kids play outs

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I thought you were moving to Iran?
    I've been looking at Pakistan, and even that is not going well. They're not very interested in Americans being there at the moment. Especially ones who claim to want to stay permanently.

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    Re: Mom sues police and neighbor after she is arrested for letting her kids play outs

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    They can be on the sidewalk. That's part of the public Right of Way (ROW). That's fine. In this area, the back of the sidewalk is generally the edge of the ROW; which means that once they're off my side of the concrete, they ARE on my property. They also have their own yard to play in.

    Of course, my personal preference is for the 8-10' tall wood fence around my entire property, so it's not an issue; but that's not always possible.
    My personal preference is that if you can hit your neighbors house with a .22, they are to damned close.

    I don't see what the big deal was. When I was a kid, we played in the street all the time. Unless it is a busy street, that is one thing, but a side street in a neighborhood, no big deal. Why do parents have to have "eyes on" all the time also? Hell, we always knew which moms were home and where to go if we needed help.

    I am far more concerned as to whether or not she was making the boys play soccer instead of letting them play football. Making a boy participate in a sissy sport instead of letting him explore his masculine aggressive nature is really child abuse. The boys could be scared for life treating them like that.
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    Re: Mom sues police and neighbor after she is arrested for letting her kids play outs

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    I've been looking at Pakistan, and even that is not going well. They're not very interested in Americans being there at the moment. Especially ones who claim to want to stay permanently.
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    Re: Mom sues police and neighbor after she is arrested for letting her kids play outs

    my neighbor kids were always messing around in my yard when they were little. i remember once i found one hiding in the bushes. he looked scared that i caught him.

    here's how i handled it : i said, "how's it going?" and walked back inside.

    reason : children become teenagers. i'd prefer that my property not be vandalized. the kid in my example is actually a teenager now, and he and his friends get into trouble, but they leave my **** alone.

    there's a lot to be said for being an unattractive target.

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