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    Re: State Department: Stop asking us about the Beghazi attack

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    It's poilotical fodder. There are perfectly legit reasons to be very tight lipped
    Oh, I see. Because you think there are, any notion to the contrary, no matter how well-supported (well enough that you've taken to the cheap shots instead of debating the substance, I notice), MUST be "political fodder."

    This gets more lame the deeper you go down the hole.

    Especially when I did offer one legitimate reason to be tight-lipped, which you pretended I did not and tried to bludgeon me with it, and pointed out that it's not reason they cited.
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    Re: State Department: Stop asking us about the Beghazi attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Mad_Hatter View Post
    I don't see anything out of line with what the State Department said here.
    I don't know how anyone can say that with a straight face. Batman was a crime scene -- we had information galore. Zimmerman/Martin was a crime scene -- we had information galore...recordings...photographs...likely scenerios...coppers constantly updating the press.

    This is bull****. And know what it tells me? All is not as it seems. Wake up.
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    Re: State Department: Stop asking us about the Beghazi attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    The State Department isn't subordinate to the FBI.
    Nor is the FBI subordinate to the State Department...they are subordinate to the Department of Justice and truthfully, critical elements may not ever be shared with Dept of State...basically, State is deferring to the FBI, as the FBI is the agency that has full authority over this investigation.

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    Re: State Department: Stop asking us about the Beghazi attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Mad_Hatter View Post
    Nor is the FBI subordinate to the State Department...they are subordinate to the Department of Justice and truthfully, critical elements may not ever be shared with Dept of State...basically, State is deferring to the FBI, as the FBI is the agency that has full authority over this investigation.
    They do not have "full authority." They have no authority that State doesn't grant, or that the President doesn't specifically order. State is a separate department over which Justice does not have authority.

    State may well be granting the authority, but the point is, they make it sound like they have no choice. That's not correct, and it's lame.
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    Re: State Department: Stop asking us about the Beghazi attack

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I don't know how anyone can say that with a straight face. Batman was a crime scene -- we had information galore. Zimmerman/Martin was a crime scene -- we had information galore...recordings...photographs...likely scenerios...coppers constantly updating the press.

    This is bull****. And know what it tells me? All is not as it seems. Wake up.
    Neither of these situations you cite have a single thing to do with national security or with the ongoing security of personnel still stationed at embassies and consulates in the 23 nations that are currently under siege. I'm wide awake, thank you very much - and my concerns rest with not compromising the safety of those still in harm's way.

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    Re: State Department: Stop asking us about the Beghazi attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    They do not have "full authority." They have no authority that State doesn't grant, or that the President doesn't specifically order. State is a separate department over which Justice does not have authority.

    State may well be granting the authority, but the point is, they make it sound like they have no choice. That's not correct, and it's lame.
    I'm sorry, but since when does the FBI get its authority from the Dept of State? You just stated that State and DoJ are two separate departments but then state the FBI takes its marching orders from State??? I think I'm misinterpreting your post...can you clarify?

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    Re: State Department: Stop asking us about the Beghazi attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Mad_Hatter View Post
    I'm sorry, but since when does the FBI get its authority from the Dept of State? You just stated that State and DoJ are two separate departments but then state the FBI takes its marching orders from State??? I think I'm misinterpreting your post...can you clarify?
    You are.

    The FBI cannot take over the investigation at an embassy without State's consent or a Presidential order. The FBI doesn't have that authority. So this act that State has no choice is just that - an act.

    And State would not be beholden to FBI investigative policy, in terms of what it can discuss, even if they grant said consent. They can AGREE to it, but again, that's voluntary, and not the hands-tying that the spokeswoman suggested.
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    Re: State Department: Stop asking us about the Beghazi attack

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Okay how do we go about persecuting this war?

    If not treating the scene as a crime scene and gathering as much information as possible.
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    Re: State Department: Stop asking us about the Beghazi attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Mad_Hatter View Post
    Nor is the FBI subordinate to the State Department...they are subordinate to the Department of Justice and truthfully, critical elements may not ever be shared with Dept of State...basically, State is deferring to the FBI, as the FBI is the agency that has full authority over this investigation.
    You make it sound as though State is voting "present" -- is that your intent?
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    Re: State Department: Stop asking us about the Beghazi attack

    So, what, you guys want what? The investigation to be contaminated by giving out the details to whoever asks?

    ****ing right-wingers. It's not about justice or security of the US or anything. It's just about attacking Democrats. You'd rather let our attackers go free than let the Democrats get a "win."
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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