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    Re: REPORTS: No Live Ammo for Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Rumsfeld was correct in both quotes, but that has nothing to do with my statement. It's simply your opinion of Rumsfeld...and Bush by extension. You've made no mention of the Pentagon running interference for a lying Bush.

    Seems to me your whole post was a wasted, irrelevant bunch of liber...er, excuse me, socialist...blather.
    Your entire reason for believing something with no source or supporting material is because of your opinion of Obama. Now you are saying this this guy's argument isn't valid because its just an opinion, which is it man? Are opinions valid or not valid? Or let me guess, your opinions can be used in arguments while other people's opinions can't because they are right? Hypocrite.

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    Re: REPORTS: No Live Ammo for Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    When hearing stories like this, it's always a good idea to go off half-cocked before actually getting the true story from the military. It makes righteous indignation so much easier.
    But that requires reasonableness and capacity to research.

    You know full well someone like Mycroft who stated "I'm entirely against the Democrat Party" is not going to do that.
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    Re: REPORTS: No Live Ammo for Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Why? You'll take the word of a blog article without an author or any source material, over the Pentagon?

    NightWatch 20120913 - KGS

    That is the original source up there, and if I'm going to believe that Marines weren't allowed to carry live ammo I'm going to need more than some anonymous sourceless writing on the internet. You should demand facts before just picking whats true and false based on what you wish reality to be, otherwise you're just being willfully ignorant.
    At this point, the people who irrationally hate Obama don't give a **** about facts. Notice how they're all up on a source they can't prove wasn't written by a 90 year old white lady from Botswanna.

    They will jump on anything and I mean anything these days.

    Reminds me of the groups that hated Bush so much that they'd claim anything they found on the internet against Bush was correct. The whole notion of fact sourcing went out the window with them.

    It's alarming but funny to see the hardcore partisan hacks like Mycroft do the exact same **** they criticize the hardcore leftist hacks here for.
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    Re: REPORTS: No Live Ammo for Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Amazing how suddenly left wingers find the Pentagon to be so credible.

    I don't think this is settled yet. No matter how you cut it this was ****ed up beyond all belief.

    Here's the BBC's take on the attack. They report that some of the embassy security people, which consisted in part of Lybians, just dropped their weapons and ran. Those that were left fired back but were out gunned and out manned. It was a well coordinated attack of armed men.

    BBC News - US consulate in Benghazi 'did not have enough security'
    Amazing how you suddenly take the BBC as credible.. two way street man.
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    Re: REPORTS: No Live Ammo for Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    Amazing how you suddenly take the BBC as credible.. two way street man.
    Nope, just passing it along for what it's worth. The BBC seems to be backing the Pentagon's claim that the guards were armed, just outgunned, (so are you not impressed by how fair and balanced I am today?)

    Either way it's a total ****up for the State Department, which by some accounts got plenty of warning that this would happen. Ambassador Rice, FWIW, denies it.

    More details emerge on U.S. ambassador's last moments - CNN.com

    Libyan president: 'No doubt' attack 'preplanned' - POLITICO.com

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    Re: REPORTS: No Live Ammo for Marines

    See what happens when they take our ammo away.

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    Re: REPORTS: No Live Ammo for Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by Darroll View Post
    See what happens when they take our ammo away.
    According to my former combat training, when you are out of ammo you start using BFRs.

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    Re: REPORTS: No Live Ammo for Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Your entire reason for believing something with no source or supporting material is because of your opinion of Obama. Now you are saying this this guy's argument isn't valid because its just an opinion, which is it man? Are opinions valid or not valid? Or let me guess, your opinions can be used in arguments while other people's opinions can't because they are right? Hypocrite.
    If Somerville had raised an opinion that actually referred to anything I said, I would have given it some consideration. He didn't. So, yeah...his whole diatribe about Rumsfeld is dismissed and disregarded because it's irrelevant to the point to which he was responding. I thought I made that clear in my dismissal.

    Evidently you...and the others who "liked" your post...don't understand that.

    So it goes.
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    Re: REPORTS: No Live Ammo for Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    If Somerville had raised an opinion that actually referred to anything I said, I would have given it some consideration. He didn't. So, yeah...his whole diatribe about Rumsfeld is dismissed and disregarded because it's irrelevant to the point to which he was responding. I thought I made that clear in my dismissal.

    Evidently you...and the others who "liked" your post...don't understand that.

    So it goes.
    I think they understand at least that you need a source to back up claims you make before people are going to believe you. That's how facts work you know. "In my opinion" is not good enough dude.

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    Re: REPORTS: No Live Ammo for Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I think they understand at least that you need a source to back up claims you make before people are going to believe you. That's how facts work you know. "In my opinion" is not good enough dude.
    My opinion is good enough for me. Especially in my own thread.

    Trying to rebut my opinion by talking about something unrelated is kind of stupid, though.
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