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    Re: You’ll Need an ID to Prove You’re a Democrat but Not to Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Kinda like Street People and Bangers in Chicago, NY, and L. A......Huh?
    See my post #89.

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    Re: You’ll Need an ID to Prove You’re a Democrat but Not to Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    It's not a barrier at all. You cannot cash a check without identification. In some counties, you can be arrested for vagrancy if you have no ID. It is not in any way unreasonable to expect voters to have an identification.
    Also just how does one get a passport without an ID? A MAJOR credit card? How does one claim property that has been stolen and recovered without an ID? Checks, money orders, the same.

    Also most high schools give out a student ID. Also I believe Identification is needed to access a Library. Not to mention College Universites Give out ID's.

    Concerning some voter Fraud thats has been going on for quite some time. Is due to college kids voting at the Universities which they attend even in other states. Plus Still voting in their own home state.

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    Re: You’ll Need an ID to Prove You’re a Democrat but Not to Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    No, you can have a different view on many issues without it being for nefarious reasons...social security, abortion, tax policy, etc. But when you specifically support a law that will disproportionately disenfranchise minority voters, and you do it without even PRETENDING like you have evidence of a problem that this will solve, then it is absolutely for nefarious reasons. Civil rights laws are a completely different animal than, say, what the marginal tax rate should be.
    Great how that works. "I characterize things in such a way where you can have only one viewpoint, and any other viewpoint is evil."

    It must be quite a thing to view the world through such "evil" filters all the time. No penetrating such a wall of self-assuredness, though.
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    Re: You’ll Need an ID to Prove You’re a Democrat but Not to Vote

    Republicans who support such voter suppression legislation have not hidden their true agenda

    Mike Turzai, Pennsylvania GOP House Majority Leader: Voter ID Will Allow Mitt Romney To Win State

    Pennsylvania House leader Mike Turzai came out and said the law would deliver Pennsylvania to the GOP.

    Mike Turzai, the Pennsylvania GOP House majority leader, said that a strict new voter ID law will help Republicans win the state for the first time since 1988.

    "Pro-Second Amendment? The Castle Doctrine, it’s done. First pro-life legislation -- abortion facility regulations -- in 22 years, done. Voter ID, which is going to allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania, done," he said to applause at a Republican State Committee this weekend, according to PoliticsPa.com.

    The comment contradicted the usual Republican line that voter ID laws are for guarding against voter fraud -- which is extremely rare if not nonexistent in practice -- and not to help elect Republicans. Pennsylvania passed a new law in March through a GOP-led legislature requiring voters to show a driver's license or government issued photo ID before voting.
    So lets stop pretending that this issue is about something else other than gaining a partisan advantage to help the GOP win elections it cannot now win.
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    Re: You’ll Need an ID to Prove You’re a Democrat but Not to Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Also just how does one get a passport without an ID? A MAJOR credit card? How does one claim property that has been stolen and recovered without an ID? Checks, money orders, the same.

    Also most high schools give out a student ID. Also I believe Identification is needed to access a Library. Not to mention College Universites Give out ID's.

    Concerning some voter Fraud thats has been going on for quite some time. Is due to college kids voting at the Universities which they attend even in other states. Plus Still voting in their own home state.
    That's right! The world is much more complicated now than it was 50 or 100 years ago. Today, having proper identification is a necessity.

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    Re: You’ll Need an ID to Prove You’re a Democrat but Not to Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Republicans who support such voter suppression legislation have not hidden their true agenda

    Mike Turzai, Pennsylvania GOP House Majority Leader: Voter ID Will Allow Mitt Romney To Win State

    Pennsylvania House leader Mike Turzai came out and said the law would deliver Pennsylvania to the GOP.



    So lets stop pretending that this issue is about something else other than gaining a partisan advantage to help the GOP win elections it cannot now win.
    To me, this is about preventing illegal immigrants from voting in OUR elections. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with one party or another. I couldn't care less about that garbage.

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    Re: You’ll Need an ID to Prove You’re a Democrat but Not to Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Does it need to be Nationwide? What about in Key-States only? What happened with Minnesota and Franken and having Convicted Ex Felons voting for him while being locked up?
    What all 13 of them? The first of them got up in court and said under oath that he voted for Norm Coleman? Do some homework.


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    Re: You’ll Need an ID to Prove You’re a Democrat but Not to Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Evidence from key states (or non-key states) is fine too. Really I'm looking for *any* evidence of voter fraud from *anywhere* in the country, as I have seen absolutely none.



    OK, now we're getting somewhere. This is at least an attempt at some evidence of voter fraud, which is more than the proponents of voter ID are usually willing to do. So I'll hear you out: How many ineligible voters voted for Al Franken? And what was the circumstances of their vote? What I mean by this is...was their name simply not purged from the voter rolls as it should have been, or did they vote in someone else's name? If it's the former, then a voter ID will not solve this problem.
    Perhaps this will answer your question.....

    In the '08 campaign, Republican Sen. Norm Coleman was running for re-election against Democrat Al Franken. It was impossibly close; on the morning after the election, after 2.9 million people had voted, Coleman led Franken by 725 votes.

    Franken and his Democratic allies dispatched an army of lawyers to challenge the results. After the first canvass, Coleman's lead was down to 206 votes. That was followed by months of wrangling and litigation. In the end, Franken was declared the winner by 312 votes. He was sworn into office in July 2009, eight months after the election.

    During the controversy, a conservative group called Minnesota Majority began to look into claims of voter fraud. Comparing criminal records with voting rolls, the group identified 1,099 felons -- all ineligible to vote -- who had voted in the Franken-Coleman race.

    When 1,099 Felons Vote In A Race Won By 312 Ballots - Byron York - Page 1

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    Re: You’ll Need an ID to Prove You’re a Democrat but Not to Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That's right! The world is much more complicated now than it was 50 or 100 years ago. Today, having proper identification is a necessity.
    The fact is there is no reason to be required to have an ID just like there was no reason to have it in the past. Countries require it, but its not necessary for it to exist.

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    Re: You’ll Need an ID to Prove You’re a Democrat but Not to Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    They should also be checked. I think it is prudent to use every measure that is not unreasonable at our disposable to prevent any occurrence of fraud. Requiring certain identification to cast a ballot is not unreasonable.
    How are you going to check ID on absentee ballots? Send government agents to everyone's house? If they live overseas, but are citizens, does their DL from that country count?

    There's no way to check it for absentee ballots, which is why that's how fraud is committed. It's too easy.


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