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    Re: Body of 11 Year Old Christian Found Mutilated, Burned in Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Oh.. so crime against children is not really crime unless its about religion or some twisted perception of religion?
    So is the case at hand considered a despicable crime in Pakistan, as it would surely be in the US?
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    Re: Body of 11 Year Old Christian Found Mutilated, Burned in Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    Wow! It's that "peaceful" religion that so many on DP defend against us right wingers.
    This case isn't Islam. Islam is a diverse set of faiths (as diverse as Christianity) followed by millions of individuals all over the world. Condemning Islam/Muslims because of this case would be a dangerous president to set for pretty much anyone (we're all in all sorts of nominal groups that also include bad people).

    I can't speak for anyone else but I've only ever defended the millions of Muslims who aren't violent extremist (including the few I know are lovely individuals) but are condemned, insulted and attacked (verbally or physically) because of individual evil acts like the one in this thread. I wouldn't defend "Islam" because that would be as stupid as attacking it.

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    Re: Body of 11 Year Old Christian Found Mutilated, Burned in Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    So is the case at hand considered a despicable crime in Pakistan, as it would surely be in the US?
    Yes.. and someone will be executed for it.

    One curious aspect of Islam is that the victims actually have more rights than the perpetrator.

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    Re: Body of 11 Year Old Christian Found Mutilated, Burned in Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    This case isn't Islam. Islam is a diverse set of faiths (as diverse as Christianity) followed by millions of individuals all over the world. Condemning Islam/Muslims because of this case would be a dangerous president to set for pretty much anyone (we're all in all sorts of nominal groups that also include bad people).

    I can't speak for anyone else but I've only ever defended the millions of Muslims who aren't violent extremist (including the few I know are lovely individuals) but are condemned, insulted and attacked (verbally or physically) because of individual evil acts like the one in this thread. I wouldn't defend "Islam" because that would be as stupid as attacking it.
    Muslims committed this act as indicated in the news link. The child was tortured because of blasphemy. Of course, anyone who doesn't adhere to strict Muslim beliefs is tortured and murdered, and Christians don't follow satan. You can paint Muslims/Islam any color you want, but this is still a violent religion that has murdered way too many innocents.

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    Re: Body of 11 Year Old Christian Found Mutilated, Burned in Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Yes.. and someone will be executed for it.
    We shall see.

    One curious aspect of Islam is that the victims actually have more rights than the perpetrator.
    That's a very peculiar statement. I guess you could say that as long as the male rapist is considered the victim of the provocative behavior by the female, but you won't get very far with that reasoning in a civilized country. How do you explain honor killings?
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    Re: Body of 11 Year Old Christian Found Mutilated, Burned in Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    One curious aspect of Islam is that the victims actually have more rights than the perpetrator.
    Or you could tell the truth, instead.
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    Re: Body of 11 Year Old Christian Found Mutilated, Burned in Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Yes.. and someone will be executed for it.
    Ain't never gonna happen. Simon says take a few hours and read the Quaran. The victim was an infidel. The perp/s is/are muzzies.

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    One curious aspect of Islam is that the victims actually have more rights than the perpetrator.
    I have a bridge for sale, wanna buy it. I say again, take a few hours and read the Quaran ... especially the part where Allah says ... Men are superior to women ... the words following that portion should make you feel 'glad all over'.

    And pretty please show me where in Sharia law that this statement is true. Ain't never gonna happen. (The second time I've repeated myself)

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    Re: Body of 11 Year Old Christian Found Mutilated, Burned in Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    Muslims committed this act as indicated in the news link. The child was tortured because of blasphemy.
    Probably, though that doesn't actually seem to have been confirmed.

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    Of course, anyone who doesn't adhere to strict Muslim beliefs is tortured and murdered
    There is no "of course" about it at all. Millions of Christians live alongside millions of Muslims in dozens of countries without anyone torturing and murdering anyone. Sure there is a major problem with how the faith is used in some places to incite and justify such horrific violence but that does not apply to Islam as a whole and nor is that restricted to Islam.

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    You can paint Muslims/Islam any color you want, but this is still a violent religion that has murdered way too many innocents.
    Religion doesn't kill people. People kill people.

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    Re: Body of 11 Year Old Christian Found Mutilated, Burned in Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I understand your dilemna, but Hitler was declaring war and being aggressive against other countries. When a country is not being outwardly aggressive, I have a problem with us going in and trying to fix their internal problems. When a populace has had enough brutality, they will find the will and the way to rid themselves of tyrants. If they can't do this, then they aren't really ready enough for it to happen.
    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    Would you apply that reasoning to the Nazi Holocaust?
    Precisely and even worse Diogenes.
    Lizzie's post is Ridiculous. (and ergo got the most 'likes').
    Clearly, any minority that a govt decides to Genocide (say 1%-10%) could never "find a way to rid themselves of tyrants".
    ie, Christians in Pakistan are 1.6%. (Wiki)
    We are Not talking a General populace revolution to overthrow a dictator (!) we're talking persecution/cleansing/genocide of a minority which the general populace either agrees with or cares not enough about. She's OK with that.

    EDIT: and it should be noted for "Honest Joe" (?) this is common in Islamic Majority countries, Not so in Christian ones. Islam is the self-proclaimed "fastest growing religion in the West", while Christianty is persecuted Widely in the Muslim world... and fading.
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    Re: Body of 11 Year Old Christian Found Mutilated, Burned in Pakistan

    Is genocide of Christians actually occurring in Pakistan? Like, on a mass scale?

    Because not long ago there were a bunch of Sikhs killed in the US but I don't see anyone talking about genocide in the US.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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