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    Re: Ron Paul: 'I Don't Fully Endorse' Mitt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    He stands for what he believes in - even in the face of getting everything else he wants. That is not childish. That is called integrity.
    Paul doesn't need 15 minutes because he has had 30 years. The RC would have told him what to say and who he had to endorse. They wanted to vet his speech. Screw freedom of speech - right?
    That is the only thing "childish" going on here. The political parties are very diverse and we need to embrace that diversity or the Republican party will split. Mark my words, you ain't seen nothing yet.



    Paul was conservative and Republican before many of us were born. The Party left us, not the other way around.
    BTW, he has a plurality of 5 states and guaranteed a speaking spot per the rules. Paul campaign could have sued him were he not offered a speaking spot.
    To be fair to the Republican Party: Paul is a member of that party by choice. No one forced him to become a member. He gets real, tangible benefits from that membership. It is not unreasonable to expect things in return for those benefits. One of those things they can expect is that if they give him a platform, they want his support for their candidate.

    Also note: the RNC is, like this board, privately owned and ran. We have, as you know, certain limits on free speech here. The Republican party is well within their rights to control the content of what is said at their event. It is not a freedom of speech issue, which Paul still has, but that the Republican Party is not going to give him a platform if he is not going to say what they want. If I hold a political rally to express support for SSM, I am not giving FRC an invite, nor am I likely to give some one who has said potentially damaging things on the topic a free platform to speak without knowing what they will say, because they would be saying it on my dime. That is capitalism, something libertarians and republicans are supposedly all for.
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    Re: Ron Paul: 'I Don't Fully Endorse' Mitt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Mitt just cant seem to find unconditional love from anywhere.


    In an interview with the New York Times, Ron Paul detailed his conversations with Republican National Convention organizers, who he says offered him a speaking slot under conditions he couldn't meet.


    According to Paul, convention planners offered the Texas congressman the chance to speak under two conditions: that he gave a speech pre-approved by Romney's campaign, and that he give a "full-fledged" endorsement of Mitt Romney.
    “It wouldn’t be my speech," Paul said. "That would undo everything I’ve done in the last 30 years. I don’t fully endorse him for president."


    Ron Paul: 'I Don't Fully Endorse' Mitt Romney
    GOOD. Ron is a little nutty, if he fully endorsed Mitt I would be concerned.

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    Re: Ron Paul: 'I Don't Fully Endorse' Mitt Romney

    Does any liberal here 'unconditionally support' Barrack Obama?

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    Re: Ron Paul: 'I Don't Fully Endorse' Mitt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    To be fair to the Republican Party: Paul is a member of that party by choice. No one forced him to become a member. He gets real, tangible benefits from that membership. It is not unreasonable to expect things in return for those benefits. One of those things they can expect is that if they give him a platform, they want his support for their candidate.

    Also note: the RNC is, like this board, privately owned and ran. We have, as you know, certain limits on free speech here. The Republican party is well within their rights to control the content of what is said at their event. It is not a freedom of speech issue, which Paul still has, but that the Republican Party is not going to give him a platform if he is not going to say what they want. If I hold a political rally to express support for SSM, I am not giving FRC an invite, nor am I likely to give some one who has said potentially damaging things on the topic a free platform to speak without knowing what they will say, because they would be saying it on my dime. That is capitalism, something libertarians and republicans are supposedly all for.
    Interesting, were are your arguments directed? I said that they had to offer him a spot per the rules - that's it. They are very much allowed to control what is said - you are right.
    However, as far as the Repub, Paul could actually be defined as Mr Republican Jr (behind Taft).

    The party public definition left him, and you are right - he can leave at any time. But why? He is much more in line with the states' Republican parties than any other presidential candidate in recent history. In short: he is pure Republican.
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    Re: Ron Paul: 'I Don't Fully Endorse' Mitt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    However, as far as the Repub, Paul could actually be defined as Mr Republican Jr (behind Taft).
    Taft? That was a long ... long time ago. This is the 21st century and because of the Kenyan, things are quite a bit different now.

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    He is much more in line with the states' Republican parties than any other presidential candidate in recent history.
    Possibly. However, I remind you that this the Republican NATIONAL convention ... not a State convention.

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    In short: he is pure Republican.
    An opinion which is apparently not shared by the RNC ... and I might add that after the nomination, Romney is the head of the party. Paul can either get into or stay out of the congo line.

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    Re: Ron Paul: 'I Don't Fully Endorse' Mitt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    Interesting, were are your arguments directed? I said that they had to offer him a spot per the rules - that's it. They are very much allowed to control what is said - you are right.
    However, as far as the Repub, Paul could actually be defined as Mr Republican Jr (behind Taft).

    The party public definition left him, and you are right - he can leave at any time. But why? He is much more in line with the states' Republican parties than any other presidential candidate in recent history. In short: he is pure Republican.
    The public party is what defines the party. Nothing is static, everything changes. What the republican party is is determined by those in the republican party. A republican platform will be voted on and approved at the convention this week. Among major planks of that platform will be a call to amend the constitution to outlaw abortion, increase defense spending, significant military presence overseas and aid to foreign countries, and so on. How well does Ron Paul line up with those and other planks of that platform?
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    Re: Ron Paul: 'I Don't Fully Endorse' Mitt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    Interesting, were are your arguments directed? I said that they had to offer him a spot per the rules - that's it. They are very much allowed to control what is said - you are right.
    However, as far as the Repub, Paul could actually be defined as Mr Republican Jr (behind Taft).

    The party public definition left him, and you are right - he can leave at any time. But why? He is much more in line with the states' Republican parties than any other presidential candidate in recent history. In short: he is pure Republican.
    Even at the time for a libertarian identification, men with his views were merely one contingent of many in the Republican Party. That would be like me saying FDR was pure Democrat or Lincoln was pure Republican.
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    Re: Ron Paul: 'I Don't Fully Endorse' Mitt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by Another Lurker View Post
    I do not like it that Ron Paul made these remarks.

    Whether he likes it or not ... Romney WILL be nominated. I see this as very childish ... and very much akin to Uncle Joe's appearance at the convention.

    Looks like Paul is trying to get another "15 minutes". They gave him a speaking spot but he had to 'rain (is that the word I really want to use?) on the parade'.

    If this isn't a prime example of "sour grapes" ... then nothing is.

    Everyone knows Paul's politics. This idiotic display makes me very happy that he is yet another 'also ran wannabe loser'.

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    They did not give him a speaking slot.

    What they did do is send in a bunch of lawyers and take away his delegates, so to make sure he did not get a speaking slot.

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    Re: Ron Paul: 'I Don't Fully Endorse' Mitt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    How well does Ron Paul line up with those and other planks of that platform?
    Pretty well actually, except those who are warmongers. Wait - that is both sides!

    There many within the party that are anti-war and they are considered Republican. The difference is that Paul is a threat for actual change to what has been written and signed on paper for many many years. And no one likes change.
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    Re: Ron Paul: 'I Don't Fully Endorse' Mitt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Even at the time for a libertarian identification, men with his views were merely one contingent of many in the Republican Party. That would be like me saying FDR was pure Democrat or Lincoln was pure Republican.
    Just wondering, have you read the *current* party platform?
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