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    Re: Ron Paul: 'I Don't Fully Endorse' Mitt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by Another Lurker View Post
    I do not like it that Ron Paul made these remarks.

    Whether he likes it or not ... Romney WILL be nominated. I see this as very childish ... and very much akin to Uncle Joe's appearance at the convention.

    Looks like Paul is trying to get another "15 minutes". They gave him a speaking spot but he had to 'rain (is that the word I really want to use?) on the parade'.

    If this isn't a prime example of "sour grapes" ... then nothing is.

    Everyone knows Paul's politics. This idiotic display makes me very happy that he is yet another 'also ran wannabe loser'.

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    Umm NO..I have to stick up for Paul on this one...Romney and company tried to PRESSURE him...into saying exactly what they wanted at the convention and demanding he fully endorse romney...and ron paul told them to go piss up a rope that any speech would be his...not theirs and that he felt it would undue what hes tried to do for the last 30 yrs....I will never fault a man for standing by his convictions even If I totally disagree with him.

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    Re: Ron Paul: 'I Don't Fully Endorse' Mitt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    I think the only thing that 'should' change to make things fair without providing a charitable handicap is revamping ballot access laws. It has always seemed odd to me that in most states a partisan commission controls what the standards are for ballot access which creates artificially high requirements that are often insurmountable for a third party. If this were not the case, and it was a relatively simple matter to gain ballot access than the Green, Libertarian, Constitution etc parties would be able to spend the lion-share of their money on limited television ad space, creating a volunteer network, staffing requirements, election materials, etc. In other words things they can't really think of paying for right now. But I don't support a run-off system, that seems like a handicap designed to give a leg up instead of evening the playing field. Whoever wins, should be the winner.

    PS: I should mention to be clear I do not support Ron Paul and oppose a significant amount of his policies especially with regard to foreign and monetary policy, and not an insignificant amount of fiscal policy. But I still think that it should be much easier for people like Johnson to engage in the race.
    I would be rid of tax pay funded and supported primaries. I dont care how the parties select their canidates so long as they use their own money and facilities. There should only be one election per year unless its a special type election. All you should have to do toget on the ballot should be to pay a reasonable fee. Put up or shut up as it were.
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    Re: Ron Paul: 'I Don't Fully Endorse' Mitt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    I would be rid of tax pay funded and supported primaries. I dont care how the parties select their canidates so long as they use their own money and facilities. There should only be one election per year unless its a special type election. All you should have to do toget on the ballot should be to pay a reasonable fee. Put up or shut up as it were.
    I more or less agree, but I should note that primary politics and mechanisms as I understand it are not really related to issues of 3rd party ballot access which vary in reasonableness from state to state.

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    Re: Ron Paul: 'I Don't Fully Endorse' Mitt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I like both. We could stand to be a bit more isolationist, as our butting into the business of other nations around the world, paints a big target on our backs. We have no business trying to influence the internal affairs of others.
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    Re: Ron Paul: 'I Don't Fully Endorse' Mitt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    I more or less agree, but I should note that primary politics and mechanisms as I understand it are not really related to issues of 3rd party ballot access which vary in reasonableness from state to state.
    One of the reasons there should just be a fee to get on ballot. Nothing else to qualify.
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    Re: Ron Paul: 'I Don't Fully Endorse' Mitt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    We. Don't. Live. In. A. Vacuum.
    Correct, we dont live in a vacuum, however we dont need to be in other nations business. They live the way they live, its none of our concern. Our primary foreign relations tool should be our people conducting commece with everyone. Our salesmen and women and our buyers should be the faces of America. The only influence we should have via our government is that they trade in an equitable manner with us. If they see our soldiers it should be the last thing they see. We shouldnt use our soldiers unless we intend to wipe the floor ruthlessly. Our military shouldnt be respected it should absolutely feared, and with good reason. Our policy should be, we dont it use but for two reasons a.) to defend ourselves b.) to make an example out of some country that screws with us.(this being done only occasionally and with very little warning, mainly as a live fire excercise for our troops to keep them sharp and as a reminder to the rest of the world of why they should fear our military prowess.)

    A minimalist approach to statecraft should be our policy, we dont get involved unless we are DIRECTLY affected. If our people are killed or taken hostage then our responce should be swift, sudden, vicously violent, and without warning. And with maximum collateral damage. It should be known that hospitals, schools, religous places of worship will be targeted first and for maximum effect.

    It should be known to all we play fair and are MOSTLY harmless. It should be also be noted screwing with us will get the perpetrators dead quick and in a hurry with absolutely no consideration for anybody between us and them.
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    Re: Ron Paul: 'I Don't Fully Endorse' Mitt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Correct, we dont live in a vacuum, however we dont need to be in other nations business. They live the way they live, its none of our concern. Our primary foreign relations tool should be our people conducting commece with everyone. Our salesmen and women and our buyers should be the faces of America. The only influence we should have via our government is that they trade in an equitable manner with us. If they see our soldiers it should be the last thing they see. We shouldnt use our soldiers unless we intend to wipe the floor ruthlessly. Our military shouldnt be respected it should absolutely feared, and with good reason. Our policy should be, we dont it use but for two reasons a.) to defend ourselves b.) to make an example out of some country that screws with us.(this being done only occasionally and with very little warning, mainly as a live fire excercise for our troops to keep them sharp and as a reminder to the rest of the world of why they should fear our military prowess.)

    A minimalist approach to statecraft should be our policy, we dont get involved unless we are DIRECTLY affected. If our people are killed or taken hostage then our responce should be swift, sudden, vicously violent, and without warning. And with maximum collateral damage. It should be known that hospitals, schools, religous places of worship will be targeted first and for maximum effect.

    It should be known to all we play fair and are MOSTLY harmless. It should be also be noted screwing with us will get the perpetrators dead quick and in a hurry with absolutely no consideration for anybody between us and them.
    Spare me. Ron Paul's foreign policy idea is suicide in the 21st century.
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    Re: Ron Paul: 'I Don't Fully Endorse' Mitt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Spare me. Ron Paul's foreign policy idea is suicide in the 21st century.
    As oppossed to what we are doing now?
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    Re: Ron Paul: 'I Don't Fully Endorse' Mitt Romney

    The more things change, the more things stay the same. People is people no matter what century they in.
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    Re: Ron Paul: 'I Don't Fully Endorse' Mitt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by Another Lurker View Post
    I do not like it that Ron Paul made these remarks.

    Whether he likes it or not ... Romney WILL be nominated. I see this as very childish ... and very much akin to Uncle Joe's appearance at the convention.

    Looks like Paul is trying to get another "15 minutes". They gave him a speaking spot but he had to 'rain (is that the word I really want to use?) on the parade'.

    If this isn't a prime example of "sour grapes" ... then nothing is.

    Everyone knows Paul's politics. This idiotic display makes me very happy that he is yet another 'also ran wannabe loser'.

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    He stands for what he believes in - even in the face of getting everything else he wants. That is not childish. That is called integrity.
    Paul doesn't need 15 minutes because he has had 30 years. The RC would have told him what to say and who he had to endorse. They wanted to vet his speech. Screw freedom of speech - right?
    That is the only thing "childish" going on here. The political parties are very diverse and we need to embrace that diversity or the Republican party will split. Mark my words, you ain't seen nothing yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    I'm not sure why Paul was offered a chance to speak either. He certainly isn't a conservative or a Republican. Unless they thought he would get on board to disparage Obama.

    I guess Paul is still living in his own reality. One that will certainly not further his political career.
    Paul was conservative and Republican before many of us were born. The Party left us, not the other way around.
    BTW, he has a plurality of 5 states and guaranteed a speaking spot per the rules. Paul campaign could have sued him were he not offered a speaking spot.
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