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    Re: Lance Armstrong Doping Charges: USADA To Ban Cyclist For Life, Strip Him Of 7 Tou

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    About the doping, the Libertarian in me feels the same. It's their body. Why should I care what they do with it?
    Here's hypothetical:

    Say one of your kids becomes so great at cycling, that he wants to eventually do it competitively. He does well, but lacks the edge that all the others have because they chose to dope. So basically, with his back against a wall, your son has this decision to make:
    1) To dope, succeed at his chose sport, but most likely die at a relatively young age
    2) To not dope, and know that he'll never succeed in his dreams of becoming a champion, let alone finishing in the top tier.

    Me, I don't wish to impose this on our future generations of athletes, let alone my child. I think you'd feel the same.
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    Re: Lance Armstrong Doping Charges: USADA To Ban Cyclist For Life, Strip Him Of 7 Tou

    These agencies just bury themselves and the sports they represent. Armstrong doesn't need to do anything until he gets his day in court. Then hold up the evidence of hundreds of drug tests where it showed no trace of illegal drugs in his system vs a bunch of whiny crybaby losers that got their asses kicked and claim he was doping. Let the agency attempt to strip him of his wins and then watch him Armstrong laugh his way through the legal system at them.

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    Re: Lance Armstrong Doping Charges: USADA To Ban Cyclist For Life, Strip Him Of 7 Tou

    Show the proof. I'll wait right here.
    It's nothing more than X's and O's.

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    Re: Lance Armstrong Doping Charges: USADA To Ban Cyclist For Life, Strip Him Of 7 Tou

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    Show the proof. I'll wait right here.
    They found positive tests from 2009-2010. They had dropped the case previously. (It was given to Eric Holder, then he got rid it strangely right after Lance gave money to Planned Parenthood) And now they have gotten witnesses from the 7-year Tour rein who said it doped.
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    Re: Lance Armstrong Doping Charges: USADA To Ban Cyclist For Life, Strip Him Of 7 Tou

    boy even a cycling thread can turn into an anti Obama thread... jeezzzz.
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    Lance Armstrong Doping Charges: USADA To Ban Cyclist For Life, Strip Him Of 7 Tour De

    Quote Originally Posted by Amigo View Post
    They found positive tests from 2009-2010. They had dropped the case previously. (It was given to Eric Holder, then he got rid it strangely right after Lance gave money to Planned Parenthood) And now they have gotten witnesses from the 7-year Tour rein who said it doped.
    I hope the witness evidence is actually substantive and not the same speculations and hearsay that have been discussed in the numerous books and articles written.

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    Re: Lance Armstrong Doping Charges: USADA To Ban Cyclist For Life, Strip Him Of 7 Tou

    Back in the late 60's and in to the 70's when I worked out in the local body building studio, you could get what was called Dyanabol, a muscle buidling steroid. It was easy to get it, just go to a doctor, have a complete physical, and then he would rule you healthy to take the stuff. You could get a month's prescription. Then stay off of it for a month, then go back on it every other month so 6 months out of the year you were on it. I saw guys make phonomenal weight gains, and their strength seemed to have no limits. I briefly thought about it, but the then magazine, "Strength and Health" warned you about taking that stuff, citing all kinds of problems afterwards. Yeah, I saw those problems first hand in what it did to those guys. Many developed liver and kidney problems.

    I got beat in a deadlift contest at that local gym by a cop, who was on steroids. I held the record in the deadlift at 480 lbs in the 181 lb class. One night, he deadlifted 500. I came back the next night and lifted 510. He came back and did 520. I lifted 525, and could barely stand up with it, but held it. Then he comes back and does 540. I got it off the floor but couldn't stand up with it. I complained to the managment about his unfair advantage, but it landed on deaf ears. My only answerewas, "he oultlifted you, stop crying about it". Now, this stuff is illegal and should be.

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    Re: Lance Armstrong Doping Charges: USADA To Ban Cyclist For Life, Strip Him Of 7 Tou

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Run as what dem or gop ? first I heard this
    For a while there was talk of him and press of him running for governor or Congress. GOP.

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    Re: Lance Armstrong Doping Charges: USADA To Ban Cyclist For Life, Strip Him Of 7 Tou

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    For a while there was talk of him and press of him running for governor or Congress. GOP.

    Be alot harder for him to win now...dont think it will happen

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    Re: Lance Armstrong Doping Charges: USADA To Ban Cyclist For Life, Strip Him Of 7 Tou

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Here's hypothetical:

    Say one of your kids becomes so great at cycling, that he wants to eventually do it competitively. He does well, but lacks the edge that all the others have because they chose to dope. So basically, with his back against a wall, your son has this decision to make:
    1) To dope, succeed at his chose sport, but most likely die at a relatively young age
    2) To not dope, and know that he'll never succeed in his dreams of becoming a champion, let alone finishing in the top tier.

    Me, I don't wish to impose this on our future generations of athletes, let alone my child. I think you'd feel the same.
    You make good points. All the sports teams are becoming innovative on what they can slip by. Professional sports are becoming a joke, now. It's all about winning by any means, possilble. Integrity and good sportsmanship has flown out the window.

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