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    Re: Lance Armstrong Doping Charges: USADA To Ban Cyclist For Life, Strip Him Of 7 Tou

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    As someone who couldn't care less about sports and has almost zero knowledge of sporting trends and whatever, and I say this in the interest of full honesty and disclosure...

    ...why does anyone care about doping in sports, in any manner? Seriously, I don't get it. Why should I care if Armstrong used growth hormones or whatever to win a race? Why are MLB players being hauled in front of Congress? Why is any of this in any news source outside of SportsCenter?

    For a few reasons...first its competitive sports where your supposed to start off equal and may the best man/woman win...secondly, this isnt just about sports its about MILLIONS of dollars...unpaid Olympians who stand out like Michael Phelps will be come a very very rich man...just like armstrong has become. Plus the notoriety....Tiger woods made hundreds of millions and most of his money outside of golf....not in purses for winning.

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    Re: Lance Armstrong Doping Charges: USADA To Ban Cyclist For Life, Strip Him Of 7 Tou

    Lots of things about this case. First...the tour has been dirty for decades and everyone talked about it. Armstrong was the most visible and frequently tested athlete in the sport. Its inconceivable that he could test clean 500+ times. If he was doping then like riding, he did THAT better than anyone else as well.

    People are up in arms about doping...but come on...we take vitamin supplements, legal creatine, powders, protein shakes, people have personal trainers, there is ALWAYS something being used and developed to give a person an edge. Considering the tours history, maybe the should shut it down, vacate all titles over the last 30 years, and start fresh. Maybe have all competitors sign in to a Tour village three months in advance, no personal doctors, 3x daily blood scans, and then they could remove all doubt.

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    Re: Lance Armstrong Doping Charges: USADA To Ban Cyclist For Life, Strip Him Of 7 Tou

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I really dont know the particulars...but they hammered him...they totally stripped him
    I started a thread about this on sports a few weeks ago and the International GOverning Body has said they will wait and see after they get a report from the USADA. As I noted if they are going to strip him of titles they ought to strip the East Germans of those many gold medals that were PROVEN to have been doped after trials were conducted in unified Germany after the wall fell.

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    Re: Lance Armstrong Doping Charges: USADA To Ban Cyclist For Life, Strip Him Of 7 Tou

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I started a thread about this on sports a few weeks ago and the International GOverning Body has said they will wait and see after they get a report from the USADA. As I noted if they are going to strip him of titles they ought to strip the East Germans of those many gold medals that were PROVEN to have been doped after trials were conducted in unified Germany after the wall fell.
    We agree...if your going to police the sport make sure you include EVERYONE on the good side as well as the bad side....something here nags me that there is a strong dislike for armstrong with the powers to be and they are relishing taking him down...I dont know that to be true its just a feeling that seems to come out of all this to me

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    Re: Lance Armstrong Doping Charges: USADA To Ban Cyclist For Life, Strip Him Of 7 Tou

    I think the key has to be evidence, like in any other trial. Hearsay doesnt get the job done, unless you are looking to find previously established goals.

    Interesting that after the USADA announced its 3 panelists to 'judge' Armstrong one of the 3 was caught pleading no contest to a charge of whipping out his junk in public to a college girl in St Paul. I might have to have a cruel chuckle if I knew my 'character' was going to be assessed by people like that.

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    Re: Lance Armstrong Doping Charges: USADA To Ban Cyclist For Life, Strip Him Of 7 Tou

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    We agree...if your going to police the sport make sure you include EVERYONE on the good side as well as the bad side....something here nags me that there is a strong dislike for armstrong with the powers to be and they are relishing taking him down...I dont know that to be true its just a feeling that seems to come out of all this to me
    I have athletes who have to deal with USADA and I once had to deal with them but shooting was not exactly a sport that had any history of dopers. It appears this was a vendetta since the guy had retired and they couldn't catch him while he was competing. I am still waiting for the IOC to give Shirley Babashoff and Frank Shorter the medals they were cheated out of given the trainers and doctors and coaches of the East Germans who "beat them" in 1976 were CONVICTED of doping the athletes for the EG team

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    Re: Lance Armstrong Doping Charges: USADA To Ban Cyclist For Life, Strip Him Of 7 Tou

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I have athletes who have to deal with USADA and I once had to deal with them but shooting was not exactly a sport that had any history of dopers. It appears this was a vendetta since the guy had retired and they couldn't catch him while he was competing. I am still waiting for the IOC to give Shirley Babashoff and Frank Shorter the medals they were cheated out of given the trainers and doctors and coaches of the East Germans who "beat them" in 1976 were CONVICTED of doping the athletes for the EG team
    Wont happen as I pointed out in a different thread
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    Re: Lance Armstrong Doping Charges: USADA To Ban Cyclist For Life, Strip Him Of 7 Tou

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Just WOW...


    U.S. Anti-Doping Agency chief executive Travis Tygart says the agency will ban Lance Armstrong from cycling for life and strip him of his seven Tour de France titles for doping.


    Lance Armstrong Doping Charges: USADA To Ban Cyclist For Life, Strip Him Of 7 Tour De France Titles

    He is correct. A U.S. agency has NO authority to strip him of any titles NOR ban him from cycling competitions. The USADA is an agency that has run amuck for which any accusation against any athlete is presumed true and then it declares it has infinite worldwide powers when it has none.

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    Re: Lance Armstrong Doping Charges: USADA To Ban Cyclist For Life, Strip Him Of 7 Tou

    Not mentioned is there is oft talk that Lance Armstrong is going to run for political office in Texas, so there also may be a pre-emptive political motive.

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    Re: Lance Armstrong Doping Charges: USADA To Ban Cyclist For Life, Strip Him Of 7 Tou

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Not mentioned is there is oft talk that Lance Armstrong is going to run for political office in Texas, so there also may be a pre-emptive political motive.
    Run as what dem or gop ? first I heard this

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