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    Re: Careful What You Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    That's nice and all, but he wasn't sent to jail. He was sent to a VA hospital for psychiatric observation, which tells me there's a whole hell of a lot more to this story than what's being told.
    You may want to read your sig, and then look at yourself in a mirror, and read your response to the clear violation of the constitution.

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    Re: Careful What You Say

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    Oh they aren't ignoring it, they have been whole sale bought and paid for like the rest of our government.

    How anyone can read Kennedy's majority decision on Citizen's United, and then the decision written on the Montana campaign finance law that was on the books for over 100 years, and not see the utter corruption that must be occurring for those two decisions to co-exist in the same court, is absurd to me!
    Little ass mole Roberts works a hell of a lot better here. I hate to admit it but Obama was right about him when he said he was only interested in corporate interests. Just look at his ruling in Citizen United and then his ruling for the healthcare law and its pretty clear what his deal is.

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    Re: Careful What You Say

    Quote Originally Posted by pimptight View Post
    You may want to read your sig, and then look at yourself in a mirror, and read your response to the clear violation of the constitution.
    I'm sorry, I'm not buying this bandwagon bull**** based on a youtube video and blatantly biased coverage. It's no different than the OWS nonsense.
    I love the NSA. It's like having a secret fan-base you will never see, but they're there, watching everything you write and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that I may be some person's only form of unconstitutional entertainment one night.

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    Re: Careful What You Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Little ass mole Roberts works a hell of a lot better here. I hate to admit it but Obama was right about him when he said he was only interested in corporate interests. Just look at his ruling in Citizen United and then his ruling for the healthcare law and its pretty clear what his deal is.
    Ha, I was calling the ACA decision moths in advance, and predicting a major conservative judge would jump ship to pass it. I thought it would be Alito.

    Everyone called me a quack for saying that when Obama cut the backroom deal to remove any price controls from the ACA, he was guaranteed its passing, which is why I knew the ACA would pass, and a conservative judge would flip.

    I think I actually changed a few people's minds by calling that one.

    Edit: also Roberts and Alito's Federalist ties are quite interesting.

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    Re: Careful What You Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    I'm sorry, I'm not buying this bandwagon bull**** based on a youtube video and blatantly biased coverage. It's no different than the OWS nonsense.
    What is biased about the fact that this info was gathered through data mining, and that is a constitutional violation?

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    Re: Careful What You Say

    Quote Originally Posted by pimptight View Post
    What is biased about the fact that this info was gathered through data mining, and that is a constitutional violation?
    What's biased about it? The rhetoric being spewed is a dead give away, so is the blatant polarizing effect of this story. Raub wasn't sent to jail, he was sent to a psychiatric center for evaluation. The 4th Amendment doesn't apply to medical detention.
    I love the NSA. It's like having a secret fan-base you will never see, but they're there, watching everything you write and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that I may be some person's only form of unconstitutional entertainment one night.

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    Re: Careful What You Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    What's biased about it? The rhetoric being spewed is a dead give away, so is the blatant polarizing effect of this story. Raub wasn't sent to jail, he was sent to a psychiatric center for evaluation. The 4th Amendment doesn't apply to medical detention.
    What is a dead give away is your clinging to any excuse for why its OK for the government to be data mining US citizens.

    But hey don't take my word for it, perhaps an executive for Stratfor can scare some sense into you:

    Regarding SF landmarks of interest--they need something like Trapwire more for threats from activists than from terror threats. Both are useful, but the activists are ever present around here.
    Trapwire and data mining: What we know | Privacy SOS

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    Re: Careful What You Say

    Quote Originally Posted by pimptight View Post
    What is a dead give away is your clinging to any excuse for why its OK for the government to be data mining US citizens.

    But hey don't take my word for it, perhaps an executive for Stratfor can scare some sense into you:



    Trapwire and data mining: What we know | Privacy SOS
    Show me where I made any "excuses". The 4th Amendment does not apply to psychiatric detention, and the media coverage has an overwhelming bias concerning this story. One fact that is surprisingly going ignored is that he was sent to a VA clinic. That's a pretty big detail to overlook, and a very important one, as well.
    I love the NSA. It's like having a secret fan-base you will never see, but they're there, watching everything you write and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that I may be some person's only form of unconstitutional entertainment one night.

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    Re: Careful What You Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    What's biased about it? The rhetoric being spewed is a dead give away, so is the blatant polarizing effect of this story. Raub wasn't sent to jail, he was sent to a psychiatric center for evaluation. The 4th Amendment doesn't apply to medical detention.
    And that distinction is where in the fourth amendment?

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    Re: Careful What You Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    And that distinction is where in the fourth amendment?
    The Supreme Court case of Anthony v. the City of New York.
    I love the NSA. It's like having a secret fan-base you will never see, but they're there, watching everything you write and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that I may be some person's only form of unconstitutional entertainment one night.

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