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    Re: Careful What You Say

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Here is what this man posted on Facebook that got him detained.
    Basically paranoid dribble?

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    Re: Careful What You Say

    If he broke a law why didn't they take him to court and charge him? Because the court might not give them the outcome they want. People's easy acceptance that due process is an outdated notion scares me a hell of a lot more than some guy going batsh**. I will agree that anyone who is posting anything that is even close to controversial without the benefit of tor is not the brightest light in the sky but that doesn't make it ok. I guess i should remove "the revolution will not be televised" from my music library because it might fit some profile that is deemed a threat.

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    Re: Careful What You Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Running View Post
    Basically paranoid dribble?
    I will agree that some of his statements don't add up but the idea that our political systems is run by corporations is the truth. If you don't believe it ask yourself why Corzine, Goldman Sachs executives, Wachovia Executives, HSBC executives weren't even prosecuted much less put in jail. My goodness Corzine had 1 billion dollars just disappear and he's not even prosecuted.

    How can it be paranoia when the government arrested him for his speech?

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    Re: Careful What You Say

    So wait, this guy is a patriot for taking some libertarian ideas to the ideological extreme, but Ron Paul endorses a watered down version and he's a dangerous nut job? Can't have it both ways.

    I'm skeptical of this case. Either the govt. overreacted or we don't have the full picture.
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    Re: Careful What You Say

    Quote Originally Posted by John.NoseTip View Post
    I will agree that some of his statements don't add up but the idea that our political systems is run by corporations is the truth. If you don't believe it ask yourself why Corzine, Goldman Sachs executives, Wachovia Executives, HSBC executives weren't even prosecuted much less put in jail. My goodness Corzine had 1 billion dollars just disappear and he's not even prosecuted.

    How can it be paranoia when the government arrested him for his speech?
    I know corporations run this government. There is an excellent book on this and you'd be wise to read it. And I would be wise to remember what the title of the book was. But basically it writes on how corporations are operating and this was back in the 1940s.

    EDIT: Wall Street & the Bolshevik Revolution by Antony C. Sutton

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    Re: Careful What You Say

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Our country was built on the right to rise up and resist. Our constitution protects that. His manifesto of grievences I listed above. Nothing wrong with anything this man said.
    Yeah, his manifesto isn't as bad as I thought it would be.

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    Re: Careful What You Say

    Quote Originally Posted by John.NoseTip View Post
    Yes. I think people should be free until they actually commit a crime. I don't believe in thought crimes and if you do I hope all your thoughts are government approved.
    Well, he did serve in both Iraq and Afganistan and a lot of those boys are coming back with head injuries, mental problems, depression and some are commiting suicide. Soooo, again I dunno,....I'm holding my opinion because like Tessaesque said, I don't think we're getting the whole story here.

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    Re: Careful What You Say

    Something is definitely fishy, what he said does not add up to what they charged him with.

    I don't agree or believe some of what he said, but some of it is definitly true and needs to be addressed. A President issuing Executive Orders that are actually contrary to actual law is definitely a bad thing. The fact that he actually gets enough public support to win re-election after doing so is just insane. Hell, I believe we are heading down the path to armed revolution. I am not going to advocate it. I am not going to start it. Nor am I going to lead it. In my current physical condition the most I could do is give verbal support and maybe, just maybe try to defend myself if necessary. But against the Obama regime, sure, I would verbaly support someone elses revolution if they had decent ideas and real fixes for the problems. If they are just angry because **** don't work anymore, I wouldn't be interested in them. I want solutions, not "I'm madder than hell and ain't going to take anymore" crap.

    Most of these guys are just nuts though. They have absolutely no clue on how to go about even doing what they claim they are trying to do. You don't go around killing politicians, you might end up with one even worse (Biden) or the same people that elected them will just elect someone else from the same side probably who will just continue down the same path. If some idiot killed Obama today, they would hand the November election to Biden or Clinton or whoever else the Dems put up, look at Johnson after the Kennedy assissination. The "right" and Libertarians sure as hell would not benefit from it. Assassination historical only works in very, very rare conditions and really shouldn't be persued. Blowing up Federal buildings is also just plain stupid. How many of those workers are actually supports of the politics you hate? Not to mention that like we found out after the OKC bombing, the government puts daycare centers in buildings that may be targeted and dead children are always going to silence any support for what ever belief you did it for.

    No, for now, although we are building towards revolution, it is not time. There are no leaders offering up workable methods and solutions. Would I support and do I support (verbally of course) Texas seperating, especially if Obama wins again, sure, but that is not the same as revolution. Texas seperating only becomes an Armed Conflict if the US pushes things, Texas won't initiate any actual attacks. Why would/do I support the idea of seperation for Texas, simple, the stresses leading towards revolution are building, allowing a path for the peaceful seperation of the two sides would greatly reduce those pressures. Let each side have their section of the country, let those who believe in one path or the other move to the section they support and allow each to peacefully persue their own way.

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    Re: Careful What You Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    generally, popping off on the internet about starting an armed revolution and killing people = bad idea.
    You'd think people would have learned by now.
    I love the NSA. It's like having a secret fan-base you will never see, but they're there, watching everything you write and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that I may be some person's only form of unconstitutional entertainment one night.

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    Re: Careful What You Say

    Thank goodness there are still some judges that haven't sold out. A guy gets jailed without cause or a judicial process and he's the crazy one. Maybe just maybe the crazy ones are the people who don't believe what is right in front of them

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    The real question is can he bring charges against the people who arrested him and their bosses. Isn't kidnapping a crime? Hell at least I'm willing to let them be judged by a jury which is a hell of a lot more than they were willing to do

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