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    Re: Careful What You Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Neither of us understand the situation. The difference between you and me is all I'm asking questions while you're applauding these cops for a job well done, and asking for more.

    So it's really about attitude isn't it? Does a person have a libertarian attitude like me or an authoritarian attitude like you.
    Well, I have decided I don't want to die for someone elses beliefs and so if apprehending someone who is armed to the teeth and threatening to kickstart a revolution, just so the authorities can ask him a few questions about his real intentions or evaluate his sanity, then I really don't have a problem with it. Now if he had been held without due process or disappeared without a trial into some foreign prison then I would have a problem with it. But they must found him sane and a judge ordered his release so imo the system is working and I consider this issue a non sequitur.

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    Re: Careful What You Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Well, I have decided I don't want to die for someone elses beliefs and so if apprehending someone who is armed to the teeth and threatening to kickstart a revolution, just so the authorities can ask him a few questions about his real intentions or evaluate his sanity, then I really don't have a problem with it. Now if he had been held without due process or disappeared without a trial into some foreign prison then I would have a problem with it. But they must found him sane and a judge ordered his release so imo the system is working and I consider this issue a non sequitur.
    You are using the term "non sequitur" incorrectly.

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    Re: Careful What You Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yes, they should wait till he does something, or at least starts gathering parts. Until that point, he's just running is mouth. One should be free to advocate for the overthrow of the American government.
    Advocating to over throw the government against the will of the majority of the population is probably not a good idea. We are a nation of laws, not anarchy. Get used to it.

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    Re: Careful What You Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Advocating to over throw the government against the will of the majority of the population is probably not a good idea. We are a nation of laws, not anarchy. Get used to it.
    Doesn't matter if it's a "good idea" or not, we're a nation of freedom, not fascism. Get used to it. Speaking out against the government, even advocating its downfall was not illegal till around the 50's.
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    Re: Careful What You Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Advocating to over throw the government against the will of the majority of the population is probably not a good idea. We are a nation of laws, not anarchy. Get used to it.
    I disagree, advocating the overthrow of an unjust and unconstitutional government, even if voted in by popular vote, is a very good idea. Just don't expect it to make you popular with the immoral corrupt unconstitional idiots in that government. We are supposed to be a nation of laws, but when the sitting government ignores those laws and acts against them, takes unjust actions against it's people or oversteps the bounds of legitimate government, then overthrowing that government by any means is not Anarchy but the re-establishment of order.

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    Re: Careful What You Say

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    I disagree, advocating the overthrow of an unjust and unconstitutional government, even if voted in by popular vote, is a very good idea. Just don't expect it to make you popular with the immoral corrupt unconstitional idiots in that government. We are supposed to be a nation of laws, but when the sitting government ignores those laws and acts against them, takes unjust actions against it's people or oversteps the bounds of legitimate government, then overthrowing that government by any means is not Anarchy but the re-establishment of order.
    One man's notion of unconstitutional is another man's notion of constitutional. Fight it out in the courts, thats what they're for.

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    Re: Careful What You Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    One man's notion of unconstitutional is another man's notion of constitutional. Fight it out in the courts, thats what they're for.
    Is that honestly your answer? What is with this pathetic argument as of late?

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    Re: Careful What You Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    One man's notion of unconstitutional is another man's notion of constitutional. Fight it out in the courts, thats what they're for.
    Nope, I chose to overthrow the existing government, good thing for me I will be given the chance to do so in a little over 2 months. See, I can revolt against the government, even do it legally and with the govenments concent.

    Come on, do you really think anyone other than a total moron is going to try to start a violent revolution this close to an election? Is he making plans for later, maybe. If all other means such as courts, elections, etc fail, then who knows, I might just support him. But due to my physical condition, support is basically sitting on the sidelines and rooting for who I want to win.

    By the way, where would the US be today if the founding fathers took your attitude?

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    Re: Careful What You Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Is that honestly your answer? What is with this pathetic argument as of late?
    Well, with the courts in the shape they are in these days, can you blame people for giving up on the idea of judicial integrity? "Constitutional" depends on whether the judge has an R or a D next to his name.

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    Re: Careful What You Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Well, with the courts in the shape they are in these days, can you blame people for giving up on the idea of judicial integrity? "Constitutional" depends on whether the judge has an R or a D next to his name.
    Yep, integrity in the justice system or even the government is about as common today as reality and common sense at a socialist convention or the existance of Unicorn ranches.

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