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    Ryan hits Obama on defense sequestration at helicopter museum campaign stop

    Paul Ryan attacked President Obama over looming cuts to the defense budget during a campaign stop at a helicopter museum in Pennsylvania on Tuesday afternoon, saying the president would be responsible for putting at risk "almost 44,000 jobs."
    There are a couple of problems with what Ryan said:

    1) Yes, Obama signed the bill (The 2013 budget, which contains the cuts), which originated in the Republican controlled House, was brought to the floor by Republicans, and was voted on and passed by that same body.

    2) Paul Ryan voted in favor of it. Now he's against it, and acting like he had nothing to do with it?

    Make of it what you will.

    Article is here.
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    Re: Ryan hits Obama on defense sequestration at helicopter museum campaign stop

    I thought the government couldn't create jobs. I guess the sacred military is exempt.
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    Re: Ryan hits Obama on defense sequestration at helicopter museum campaign stop

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    There are a couple of problems with what Ryan said:

    1) Yes, Obama signed the bill (The 2013 budget, which contains the cuts), which originated in the Republican controlled House, was brought to the floor by Republicans, and was voted on and passed by that same body.

    2) Paul Ryan voted in favor of it. Now he's against it, and acting like he had nothing to do with it?

    Make of it what you will.

    Article is here.
    I find it hilarious that Ryan is complaining that Obama needs to spend more taxpayer money.
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    Re: Ryan hits Obama on defense sequestration at helicopter museum campaign stop

    When people say the government can't create jobs, I think they mean that it can't create wealth. People are very fixated on wealth as being the most important thing there is.

    The government is the largest employer and those jobs are held by middle class americans. I assume that's a good thing.

    IMHO, wealth is highly over-rated but inherent to the function of society as we know it.



    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I thought the government couldn't create jobs. I guess the sacred military is exempt.

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    Re: Ryan hits Obama on defense sequestration at helicopter museum campaign stop

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I find it hilarious that Ryan is complaining that Obama needs to spend more taxpayer money.
    Just as funny as when Ryan blamed Obama for the closure of an auto-parts plant... that happened under Bush.

    Reality and facts are not the strong suit of the Ryan/Romney campaign.
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    Re: Ryan hits Obama on defense sequestration at helicopter museum campaign stop

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    When people say the government can't create jobs, I think they mean that it can't create wealth.
    And they're wrong there too.

    The NIH created lots of drugs. I count that as wealth
    NASA created lots of applied material that we use today. I call that wealth.
    The military has some amazing prosthetic and clotting tools. I call that wealth.

    Anyone who says the government can't create wealth or jobs is ****ing stupid.
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    Re: Ryan hits Obama on defense sequestration at helicopter museum campaign stop

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Just as funny as when Ryan blamed Obama for the closure of an auto-parts plant... that happened under Bush.

    Reality and facts are not the strong suit of the Ryan/Romney campaign.
    I find it funny that Ryan hosted an event at a steel firm which is around solely because of an SBA loan and then proceeded to bash Obama on his speech which was little more than everyone who made it got help.
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    Re: Ryan hits Obama on defense sequestration at helicopter museum campaign stop

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    I find it funny that Ryan hosted an event at a steel firm which is around solely because of an SBA loan and then proceeded to bash Obama on his speech which was little more than everyone who made it got help.
    Or that the GOP convention is being held in a building that would not be there if it was not for public funding and the 50 million in public subsides the GOP has gotten for the convention!

    Lets just agree that Ryan/Romney and the GOP are a bunch of hypocrites at best.
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    Re: Ryan hits Obama on defense sequestration at helicopter museum campaign stop

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Or that the GOP convention is being held in a building that would not be there if it was not for public funding and the 50 million in public subsides the GOP has gotten for the convention!

    Lets just agree that Ryan/Romney and the GOP are a bunch of hypocrites at best.
    The GOP selectively cares about shrinking government and states' rights. The GOP in its platform wants to strip states of their right to do as they please with gay marriage and abortion. And the GOP will freely use big government to get what it wants.
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    Re: Ryan hits Obama on defense sequestration at helicopter museum campaign stop

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    The GOP selectively cares about shrinking government and states' rights. The GOP in its platform wants to strip states of their right to do as they please with gay marriage and abortion. And the GOP will freely use big government to get what it wants.
    Well said. And that is the difference between the two big parties. The Dems might be just as corrupt, just as hypocritical, but they dont try to hide it behind some higher moral stance that not even Jesus could meet.. the GOP does. The GOP says one thing and does another.... reminds me of how Arafat did his interviews back in the day.. saying one thing to the western media and the totally opposite to his base.
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