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Missouri Republican claims 'legitimate rape' rarely results in pregnancy[W:137]

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I don't care if he said "voluntarily" or not. If there's sperm and an egg, pregnancy is a possibility. Does this guy need to go back to "abstinence only" sex ed? Apparently he didn't even absorb that information.[/QUOTE

The argument he should have used is that abortion isn't necessary if one is raped since there's a morning-after pill.

I'd be willing to bet the farm that he doesn't believe in the morning after pill, either. What do you think?
 
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What is it about right wing Republican males and their complete lack of valid information about the female body? First we had Limbaugh decryingthe terrible expense of birth control because a college coed was having "so much sex" - as if one needed more than a daily dosage of the pill regardless of how much sex one was having - and now its this bozo.

Give the GOP male ignorance of basic female anatomy, it is no wonder some are worried about them being an endangered species.
 
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What is it about right wing Republican males and their complete lack of valid information about the female body? First we had Limbaugh decryingthe terrible expense of birth control because a college coed was having "so much sex" - as if one needed more than a daily dosage of the pill regardless of how much sex one was having - and now its this bozo.

Give the GOP male ignorance of basic female anatomy, it is no wonder some are worried about them being an endangered species.

If the right wing males can't figure out how to reproduce, they'll soon become an endangered species.

They may eventually have to be helped to have sex, like the pandas.
 
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That part? His district encompasses St. Charles. Not exactly a backwater. Missouri is a swing state, Obama was barely defeated there in 08'. They have a Democrat Governor and Senator Claire McCaskill is a Democrat with a solid chance of winning re-election even if Obama loses. Akin made a moronic statement, no reason to tear down the entire state for it.
It also includes the western part of St. Louis county where a lot of middle- to upper middle-class suburban voters are - and I don't think it includes all of St Charles, just a piece of it and to the west.

I didn't tear down the entire state, what gave you that idea??? You should look at my user name a little closer. I'm very well aware of who McCaskill is. ;)
 
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Gotta hand it to Romney and the Republican party in general on this one. Romney launched a scathing attack on Akin for his remarks. What makes this remarkable is that Missouri is a state that Republicans absolutely have to win in order to have a chance at winning the Senate. Kudos to Romney for putting decency ahead of ideology and politics.
 
Gotta hand it to Romney and the Republican party in general on this one. Romney launched a scathing attack on Akin for his remarks. What makes this remarkable is that Missouri is a state that Republicans absolutely have to win in order to have a chance at winning the Senate. Kudos to Romney for putting decency ahead of ideology and politics.

or Perhaps Mittens and others were just cognizant of the deadline to withdraw tomorrow and replace the bufoon with somebody who may have a chance in hell of winning one for their team? And in that case it is ideology and politics triumphing once again.
 
or Perhaps Mittens and others were just cognizant of the deadline to withdraw tomorrow and replace the bufoon with somebody who may have a chance in hell of winning one for their team? And in that case it is ideology and politics triumphing once again.

That buffoon has already won six elections.
 
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If the right wing males can't figure out how to reproduce, they'll soon become an endangered species.

They may eventually have to be helped to have sex, like the pandas.
I thought that's what non-"legitimate" rape was for?
 
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If the right wing males can't figure out how to reproduce, they'll soon become an endangered species.

They may eventually have to be helped to have sex, like the pandas.

Even "abstinence only" sex ed would teach the very basic concept that sex can result in a pregnancy.
 
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For a healthy couple, your chances of getting pregnant in any one month is 25-30%, but it's also about timing.
Per how many acts of intercourse?
 
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This guy with his abject ignorance was bad enough, but don't contribute to what this fool has started.

A woman is as likely to become pregnant from rape as from not rape. The stress from the rape doesn't change the odds of pregnancy. That is all.


The combination of misunderstanding and cherry-picked science even led some to conclude that a woman who says she was raped yet becomes pregnant must have been lying about the attack. Modern proponents of the claim repeat it despite empirical research showing that rape victims are at least as likely to become pregnant as women who have consensual sex, and possibly more likely.
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"A woman who is raped at a vulnerable time in her menstrual cycle is as likely to conceive and retain a pregnancy as a woman who was voluntarily attempting pregnancy," said ACOG's Levy. "There's absolutely no validity to any sort of theory that the trauma related to rape - or to any thing else for that matter - would shut down ovulation that has already begun."


Rape trauma as barrier to pregnancy has no scientific basis - Yahoo! News
 
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I am so tired of crazys on both sides saying such ignorant, uninformed crap. What happened to logic and common sense??? People voted for this guy???
 
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I am so tired of crazys on both sides saying such ignorant, uninformed crap. What happened to logic and common sense??? People voted for this guy???

Six times so far.
 
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Per how many acts of intercourse?

And I believe that figure is the upper range for women 'trying' to get pregnant. They probably have intercourse close to once a day.
 
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Akin still claims he will not drop out. 19 hours until the deadline for the GOP to be able to replace him on the ticket without a court order.
 
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And I believe that figure is the upper range for women 'trying' to get pregnant. They probably have intercourse close to once a day.
Those guys got off light then.
So if having sex 30 times over a month results in a pregnancy 25% - 30% of the time what does that make the odds of getting pregnant from a single act of intercourse?
Someone provided a link which said that about 5% of rape victims become pregnant.
That study didn't seem to differentiate between legitimate rape and illegitimate rape though--go figure.
 
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The human race will survive. It's the Congress I worry about.

That made me lol and weep at the same time!
 
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That study didn't seem to differentiate between legitimate rape and illegitimate rape though--go figure.

Pregnant Woman Relieved To Learn Her Rape Was Illegitimate | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

“Being violently coerced into having sex was the worst thing that’s ever happened to me, so I take comfort in knowing it wasn’t actually rape,” Byars said of the vicious encounter in which she was accosted in an alleyway by a stranger, pinned to the ground, and penetrated against her will for 25 minutes.

That rape couldn't have been legitimate.
 
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Not everyone in Missouri voted for him. He's the republican candidate. Don't paint all of us with the same brush.
 
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Akin still claims he will not drop out.


He should stand his ground.

Republicans should not let the pro-choice liberals influence who their candidates are.
 
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That is not true. See above.

Rape triggers a stress response which is shown to lower the chances of regular ovulation, conception, and viable pregnancy.

I feel like it's insane I have to disclaim this, but given how people have responded thus far, I will: I am not defending the anti-choicer in the OP. I am defending scientific accuracy. It does not matter to me if the chances are lower. Women who are raped deserve access to abortion. Any woman deserves access to abortion. However, I will not abandon accuracy to make that point. I don't have to.

You are not "defending accuracy", you are extending his arguement by relating rape to all stress events. His statement is not accurate to begin with even with your extension, the body do not "try to shut that whole thing down" even if there is a reduction in the chances of fertilisation under stress due to the presence of certain stress hormones. While you have shown that there is scientific evidence that stress reduces the probability of fertilisation, his statement is still very much incorrect and without scientific merits.
 
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