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    Re: Missouri Republican claims 'legitimate rape' rarely results in pregnancy

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Interesting how Republican politicians always feel the need to distinguish "legitimate" rape from (I guess) "fake" rape. You don't see them doing that when they talk about assault or burglary or whatever, do you?
    There is a difference between forcible rape and stuff that is often called date rape. ask any cop or prosecutor. Or if you watched the William Kennedy Smith case (which I did from start to finish) you would understand.

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    Re: Missouri Republican claims 'legitimate rape' rarely results in pregnancy

    From the link in the OP:

    (CNN) U.S. Rep. Todd Akin, who won Missouri's GOP Senate primary earlier this month and will face incumbent Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill in November's general election, said Sunday that he misspoke when he claimed "legitimate rape" rarely resulted in pregnancy.

    Answering a question about whether or not he thought abortion should be legal in the case of rape, Akin explained his opposition by citing unnamed bodily responses he said prevented pregnancy.
    So, since according to him, pregnancy from a rape is rare, a woman should not be allowed to get an abortion in those rare cases.
    Meaning, he wants the government to force a woman to carry a zygote to term regardless of the circumstances.

    and he's a six term Congressman. Who keeps electing these guys?
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    Re: Missouri Republican claims 'legitimate rape' rarely results in pregnancy

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    There is a difference between forcible rape and stuff that is often called date rape. ask any cop or prosecutor. Or if you watched the William Kennedy Smith case (which I did from start to finish) you would understand.
    I see. So "date rape" is "fake" and only stranger rape is "legitimate rape". Is that what you're saying? So if a woman goes on a date with somebody and doesn't want to have sex with him, that's not really rape-rape if he forces her to?
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    Re: Missouri Republican claims 'legitimate rape' rarely results in pregnancy

    How about mandatory court ordered vasectomies for every man who doesn't pay child support for more than 12 months and for every man over 50. He can have the option of having his sperm frozen in case he marries a trophy wife.

    How about mandatory dismissal of every federally elected official that is proven to have had an affair while in office?

    That'd be one way to get rid of half sumbitches in Washington.

    Or, as odd as it may seem, how about letting women decide for themselves what they choose to do with their own bodies?

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    Re: Missouri Republican claims 'legitimate rape' rarely results in pregnancy

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Probably in mandatory schooling.
    Oooooooooo, that's cold.

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    Re: Missouri Republican claims 'legitimate rape' rarely results in pregnancy

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    I see. So "date rape" is "fake" and only stranger rape is "legitimate rape". Is that what you're saying? So if a woman goes on a date with somebody and doesn't want to have sex with him, that's not really rape-rape if he forces her to?
    nope you of course want to mischaracterize the point

    if someone has been beaten up menaced with a weapon or physical violence it is pretty obvious that the intercourse was a crime

    if the woman says she "said no" and the guy said she said yes and there is no physical evidence of coercion than there is the DISTINCT POSSIBILITY that the woman is not being truthful. The Jury acquitted William Kennedy Smith because they did not believe Patty Bowman's claim that the sex was non-consensual

    In Cincinnati, UC basketball star Louis Banks was accused of "date rape" by a woman who claimed they had NON-Consensual sex on FRIDAY NIGHT but CONSENSUAL sex the following night. How that made it past the grand jury is a puzzler but he was quickly acquitted by the jury because as the jury foreman noted on live tv-she was obviously a LIAR.

    its all about the evidence-something most attorneys understand

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    Re: Missouri Republican claims 'legitimate rape' rarely results in pregnancy

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    nope you of course want to mischaracterize the point

    if someone has been beaten up menaced with a weapon or physical violence it is pretty obvious that the intercourse was a crime

    if the woman says she "said no" and the guy said she said yes and there is no physical evidence of coercion than there is the DISTINCT POSSIBILITY that the woman is not being truthful. The Jury acquitted William Kennedy Smith because they did not believe Patty Bowman's claim that the sex was non-consensual

    In Cincinnati, UC basketball star Louis Banks was accused of "date rape" by a woman who claimed they had NON-Consensual sex on FRIDAY NIGHT but CONSENSUAL sex the following night. How that made it past the grand jury is a puzzler but he was quickly acquitted by the jury because as the jury foreman noted on live tv-she was obviously a LIAR.

    its all about the evidence-something most attorneys understand
    TD, the depths you are willing to sink to just know no end do they?

    Again, why do you think it is that Republicans seem so suspicious that the victim is lying in the case of rape, but not in the case of assault or burglary or whatever?
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    Re: Missouri Republican claims 'legitimate rape' rarely results in pregnancy

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    TD, the depths you are willing to sink to just know no end do they?

    Again, why do you think it is that Republicans seem so suspicious that the victim is lying in the case of rape, but not in the case of assault or burglary or whatever?

    why do you continually make claims about my posts that have no relation to reality? I am merely pointing out that in two prominent date rape cases the man and the woman both agreed they had sex and the jury believed the man and not the woman.

    You seem to engage in more of your far left hand wringing nonsense where you feel a need to add details to my comments--details I never even insinuated I support.

    what was I sinking too? why does the san francisco far left want to scream sexism when there is none?

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    Re: Missouri Republican claims 'legitimate rape' rarely results in pregnancy

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    why do you continually make claims about my posts that have no relation to reality? I am merely pointing out that in two prominent date rape cases the man and the woman both agreed they had sex and the jury believed the man and not the woman.

    You seem to engage in more of your far left hand wringing nonsense where you feel a need to add details to my comments--details I never even insinuated I support.

    what was I sinking too? why does the san francisco far left want to scream sexism when there is none?
    TD are you really going to sit there and pretend that you think 2 cases tell you something about a nation of 311 million people?

    Again, is there any honorable reason, that you are more suspicious that rape victims are lying than the victims of other types of crime? Or is it just blind, ignorant, hate?
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    Re: Missouri Republican claims 'legitimate rape' rarely results in pregnancy

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    TD are you really going to sit there and pretend that you think 2 cases tell you something about a nation of 311 million people?

    Again, is there any honorable reason, that you are more suspicious that rape victims are lying than the victims of other types of crime? Or is it just blind, ignorant, hate?
    More disgraceful mischaracterization. I never said anything about suspicions. I am saying that its far easier to establish a rape took place when there is evidence of violence, threats of harm, weapons etc then when the ONLY material fact in dispute was consent

    Nothing more nothing less

    when you want to honestly discuss what i ACTUALLY SAID let me know

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