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    Re: Missouri Republican claims 'legitimate rape' rarely results in pregnancy

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    He's right, it rarely does result in pregnancy.
    Rare only in that the victim might be on birth control, or is too old, or too young, or not ovulating at the time of the rape, or just unable to get pregnant, or the rapist wore a condom to prevent DNA detection, or is a male. And yet, against all those odds, 5% of rape victims get pregnant and it was estimated that 3,204 pregnancies occured from rape during a one year time period.

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    The notion that a females body shuts down during rape to prevent pregnancy is just junk science.

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    Re: Missouri Republican claims 'legitimate rape' rarely results in pregnancy

    Quote Originally Posted by nonpareil View Post
    It's more accurate to compare rape to single encounter where either party might not be using birth control like this ( another poster provided the same numbers previously):

    To find out, he and his wife Tiffany Gottschall examined the results of National Violence against Women Survey, a study by the National Institute of Justice and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The women studied were phoned at random and interviewed about their experiences. The Gottschalls focused on 405 women who had suffered a single incidence of penile-vaginal rape at some point between the ages of 12 and 45. Of these, 6.4 per cent became pregnant. But that figure jumped to nearly 8 per cent when the researchers allowed for the women who'd been using birth control-US government statistics show that 1 in 5 of the women in the sample were likely to have been using the pill or an IUD.

    To complete the comparison, the Gottschalls needed to know how many women in that age group get pregnant from one-night stands and other one-off acts of consensual sex. The answer-reported this year in a separate study by Allen Wilcox, head of the epidemiology branch of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences-was a mere 3.1 per cent. "It was surprising to see this margin of difference," says Jon Gottschall.

    Rape - an evolutionary strategy?

    This one is a good read: Here is Some Legitimate Science on Pregnancy and Rape | Context and Variation, Scientific American Blog Network
    I read about this study the other day, and the numbers concerning raped women are probably high, the authors themselves agree with that.

    But the percentage of women who become pregnant from rape is probably higher than the average woman's odds of getting pregnant the normal way, because men (even rapists) are naturally attracted to women who are ovulating, and like Simon said, these women don't have the choice of when to have sex during their cycle, and can't choose to use birth control before the act of rape, unless they are on the pill.
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    Re: Missouri Republican claims 'legitimate rape' rarely results in pregnancy

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    He's right, it rarely does result in pregnancy.
    Any links to prove that?
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    Re: Missouri Republican claims 'legitimate rape' rarely results in pregnancy

    In related news....

    Pregnant Woman Relieved To Learn Her Rape Was Illegitimate

    “Being violently coerced into having sex was the worst thing that’s ever happened to me, so I take comfort in knowing it wasn’t actually rape,” Byars said of the vicious encounter in which she was accosted in an alleyway by a stranger, pinned to the ground, and penetrated against her will for 25 minutes. “It was absolutely horrific—I felt violated in the worst way imaginable—but thanks to Congressman Akin, I now realize it must, at some level, have been consensual after all.”

    “Thank God for that,” Byars added. “I’m so relieved to know that my child’s father, the man who muffled my screams as he forcefully penetrated me over and over and left me hemorrhaging to death on the street, is not a rapist.”

    Explaining that the Republican senatorial candidate’s statements had “really opened her eyes” by helping her understand the workings of her own reproductive system, Byars said she only wishes she could have known at the time of her near-fatal assault that the female body has ways to shut down conception during cases of tried-and-true rape.

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    Re: Missouri Republican claims 'legitimate rape' rarely results in pregnancy

    Do the self described conservatives who are actually big government authoritarians really think that they can outlaw abortions whether or not the woman has been, or claims to have been raped?

    Abortion is legal. The woman doesn't have to prove that she was raped in order to get an abortion. It is not up to the government to decide when it's OK for her to have an abortion. The decision is exactly where it should be, between the patient and the doctor.

    So, the whole spurious argument that a woman who was impregnated by a rapist must be somehow faking it, or actually "enjoyed it", or was not the victim of a "legitimate" rape, whatever that is supposed to mean is irrelevant and immaterial. If the mother to be doesn't want to carry the zygote to term and give birth, then she doesn't have to do so, and it is no business of the all powerful government to say she must.
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    Re: Missouri Republican claims 'legitimate rape' rarely results in pregnancy

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    He's right, it rarely does result in pregnancy.
    Sex rarely results in pregnancy when you think about it. Still happens, and I don't really want to get into "legitimate" vs. "illegitimate" rape. How do you even define that?


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    Re: Missouri Republican claims 'legitimate rape' rarely results in pregnancy

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Sex rarely results in pregnancy when you think about it. Still happens, and I don't really want to get into "legitimate" vs. "illegitimate" rape. How do you even define that?
    It works like this..... Vaginas are like snapping turtles. If it is a legitimate rape, the vaginas bite the penises off. As a result, the penis cannot send a message to the stork to drop a baby down the chimney 9 months later.
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    Re: Missouri Republican claims 'legitimate rape' rarely results in pregnancy

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    It works like this..... Vaginas are like snapping turtles. If it is a legitimate rape, the vaginas bite the penises off. As a result, the penis cannot send a message to the stork to drop a baby down the chimney 9 months later.
    Gawd, we have alligator snapping turtles in Florida. You paint an ugly scene.

    Any chance that snapper might go off during a session of legitimate definitely not rape?
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    Re: Missouri Republican claims 'legitimate rape' rarely results in pregnancy

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    It works like this..... Vaginas are like snapping turtles. If it is a legitimate rape, the vaginas bite the penises off. As a result, the penis cannot send a message to the stork to drop a baby down the chimney 9 months later.
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    Re: Missouri Republican claims 'legitimate rape' rarely results in pregnancy

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    Gawd, we have alligator snapping turtles in Florida. You paint an ugly scene.

    Any chance that snapper might go off during a session of legitimate definitely not rape?
    Better ask first just to be sure!
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