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Missouri Republican claims 'legitimate rape' rarely results in pregnancy[W:137]

And here is the weird thing about that - Everybody hates the House of Representatives, but they happen to like their own representative. Think of it this way - Everybody in the audience, at the exact same time, cuts a fart in the middle of a recital of the Boston Pops, and then each person in the audience points to everybody else, but not themselves. :mrgreen:

Not me. My Rep's Todd Akin. But yeah I know what you mean. Congress has a single digit approval rating in some polls, but almost all of the incumbents running are re-elected year after year.
 
Say, isn't that where Romney found Ryan? What a coincidence both Adkin and Ryan just happen to be from the worst congress with the lowest ratings in 70 years. Boy, that Romney sure knows who pick em, eh?

True, but Ryan is smarter than Akin--he believes that storks deliver to rape victims as well.
 
I think the republican party should get a fund raiser together to send this guy to some remedial middle school biology and health classes.
 
I think the republican party should get a fund raiser together to send this guy to some remedial middle school biology and health classes.

Abstinence only, of course.

Which would still teach them that pregnancies sometimes result from sex.
 
I don't know if anyone heard the NPR coverage of it, but it essentially said Atkin still has a slight shot at winning the senate race(due to the low popularity of his opponent). Even after his comments, and even when prominent members of his party(Paul Ryan included) are telling him to step down, this guy might win... :doh
 
"First of all, from what I understand from doctors, that's really rare," Akin said of rape-induced pregnancy in an interview with KTVI. A clip of the interview was posted online by the liberal super PAC American Bridge.


"If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down,"

Obviously this is a hilariously stupid thing to say, but my question is, if the female body "has ways to try to shut that whole thing down" (that whole thing being pregnancy), isn't the female body performing a de facto natural abortion? Wouldn't that be equally criminal from his perspective?

The mind boggles...
 
Obviously this is a hilariously stupid thing to say, but my question is, if the female body "has ways to try to shut that whole thing down" (that whole thing being pregnancy), isn't the female body performing a de facto natural abortion? Wouldn't that be equally criminal from his perspective?

The mind boggles...

I dont think you can abort a fetus until it is actually concieved. Prior to that it is not a human life. Therefore prior to that you are not killing a human life. It only becomes teh destruction of a human life once conception takes place.
 
I dont think you can abort a fetus until it is actually concieved. Prior to that it is not a human life. Therefore prior to that you are not killing a human life. It only becomes teh destruction of a human life once conception takes place.

Sure, but is he saying "shut that whole thing down" meaning prevent an egg from being fertilized, or "shut that whole thing down" meaning shut down an incipient pregnancy?

To be clear, it really doesn't matter. I was just making a joke about an obviously ridiculous statement.
 
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Missouri Republican claims 'legitimate rape' rarely results in pregnancy
He's right, it rarely does result in pregnancy.
 
Re: Missouri Republican claims 'legitimate rape' rarely results in pregnancy

He's right, it rarely does result in pregnancy.
Rare only in that the victim might be on birth control, or is too old, or too young, or not ovulating at the time of the rape, or just unable to get pregnant, or the rapist wore a condom to prevent DNA detection, or is a male. And yet, against all those odds, 5% of rape victims get pregnant and it was estimated that 3,204 pregnancies occured from rape during a one year time period.

Who are the Victims? | RAINN | Rape, Abuse and Incest National Network

The notion that a females body shuts down during rape to prevent pregnancy is just junk science.
 
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It's more accurate to compare rape to single encounter where either party might not be using birth control like this ( another poster provided the same numbers previously):

To find out, he and his wife Tiffany Gottschall examined the results of National Violence against Women Survey, a study by the National Institute of Justice and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The women studied were phoned at random and interviewed about their experiences. The Gottschalls focused on 405 women who had suffered a single incidence of penile-vaginal rape at some point between the ages of 12 and 45. Of these, 6.4 per cent became pregnant. But that figure jumped to nearly 8 per cent when the researchers allowed for the women who'd been using birth control-US government statistics show that 1 in 5 of the women in the sample were likely to have been using the pill or an IUD.

To complete the comparison, the Gottschalls needed to know how many women in that age group get pregnant from one-night stands and other one-off acts of consensual sex. The answer-reported this year in a separate study by Allen Wilcox, head of the epidemiology branch of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences-was a mere 3.1 per cent. "It was surprising to see this margin of difference," says Jon Gottschall.

Rape - an evolutionary strategy?

This one is a good read: Here is Some Legitimate Science on Pregnancy and Rape | Context and Variation, Scientific American Blog Network

I read about this study the other day, and the numbers concerning raped women are probably high, the authors themselves agree with that.

But the percentage of women who become pregnant from rape is probably higher than the average woman's odds of getting pregnant the normal way, because men (even rapists) are naturally attracted to women who are ovulating, and like Simon said, these women don't have the choice of when to have sex during their cycle, and can't choose to use birth control before the act of rape, unless they are on the pill.
 
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In related news....

Pregnant Woman Relieved To Learn Her Rape Was Illegitimate

“Being violently coerced into having sex was the worst thing that’s ever happened to me, so I take comfort in knowing it wasn’t actually rape,” Byars said of the vicious encounter in which she was accosted in an alleyway by a stranger, pinned to the ground, and penetrated against her will for 25 minutes. “It was absolutely horrific—I felt violated in the worst way imaginable—but thanks to Congressman Akin, I now realize it must, at some level, have been consensual after all.”

“Thank God for that,” Byars added. “I’m so relieved to know that my child’s father, the man who muffled my screams as he forcefully penetrated me over and over and left me hemorrhaging to death on the street, is not a rapist.”

Explaining that the Republican senatorial candidate’s statements had “really opened her eyes” by helping her understand the workings of her own reproductive system, Byars said she only wishes she could have known at the time of her near-fatal assault that the female body has ways to shut down conception during cases of tried-and-true rape.
 
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Do the self described conservatives who are actually big government authoritarians really think that they can outlaw abortions whether or not the woman has been, or claims to have been raped?

Abortion is legal. The woman doesn't have to prove that she was raped in order to get an abortion. It is not up to the government to decide when it's OK for her to have an abortion. The decision is exactly where it should be, between the patient and the doctor.

So, the whole spurious argument that a woman who was impregnated by a rapist must be somehow faking it, or actually "enjoyed it", or was not the victim of a "legitimate" rape, whatever that is supposed to mean is irrelevant and immaterial. If the mother to be doesn't want to carry the zygote to term and give birth, then she doesn't have to do so, and it is no business of the all powerful government to say she must.
 
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He's right, it rarely does result in pregnancy.

Sex rarely results in pregnancy when you think about it. Still happens, and I don't really want to get into "legitimate" vs. "illegitimate" rape. How do you even define that?
 
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Sex rarely results in pregnancy when you think about it. Still happens, and I don't really want to get into "legitimate" vs. "illegitimate" rape. How do you even define that?

It works like this..... Vaginas are like snapping turtles. If it is a legitimate rape, the vaginas bite the penises off. As a result, the penis cannot send a message to the stork to drop a baby down the chimney 9 months later.
 
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It works like this..... Vaginas are like snapping turtles. If it is a legitimate rape, the vaginas bite the penises off. As a result, the penis cannot send a message to the stork to drop a baby down the chimney 9 months later.

Gawd, we have alligator snapping turtles in Florida. You paint an ugly scene.

Any chance that snapper might go off during a session of legitimate definitely not rape?
 
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It works like this..... Vaginas are like snapping turtles. If it is a legitimate rape, the vaginas bite the penises off. As a result, the penis cannot send a message to the stork to drop a baby down the chimney 9 months later.

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Gawd, we have alligator snapping turtles in Florida. You paint an ugly scene.

Any chance that snapper might go off during a session of legitimate definitely not rape?

Better ask first just to be sure!
 
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Any links to prove that?

sex, in general rarely results in pregnancy.
 
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sex, in general rarely results in pregnancy.

but it results in pregnancy more often than most things that we can do.
 
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but it results in pregnancy more often than most things that we can do.

well....duh......
 
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well....duh......

He gotcha admit it ocscar lol
 
Re: Missouri Republican claims 'legitimate rape' rarely results in pregnancy

He gotcha admit it ocscar lol


really? I don't see how. are there really people out there who still think you can get pregnant by some way other than sex?
 
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