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    Re: Missouri Republican claims 'legitimate rape' rarely results in pregnancy

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    So eveyone in the south and all Tea Party members are .....what? Are you sure it's not 99.9999 percent?
    Don't read into what I wrote. I try and choose my words with care. The South and the Tea Party provide people who have an ability to say the most silly, hilarious things. Nothing will probably top the "Keep the government's hands off my Medicare" though.
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    Re: Missouri Republican claims 'legitimate rape' rarely results in pregnancy

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    The idiots in the suburbs around St. Louis!
    This guy might be about to learn the hard way that what plays in a safe Republican district won't go very far on a wider basis.

    It's like Michele Bachmann. She'll keep getting re-elected, because as long as she writes an "R" after her name, she'll win that district. They've literally drawn it to make sure that there's almost no Democrats that live there. But that's as far as she's going.


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    Re: Missouri Republican claims 'legitimate rape' rarely results in pregnancy

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Nothing will probably top the "Keep the government's hands off my Medicare" though.
    Yet they seem to keep trying.


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    Re: Missouri Republican claims 'legitimate rape' rarely results in pregnancy

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Don't read into what I wrote. I try and choose my words with care. The South and the Tea Party provide people who have an ability to say the most silly, hilarious things. Nothing will probably top the "Keep the government's hands off my Medicare" though.
    yes, that's almost as stupid as saying "they want to put ya'll back in chains"
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    Re: Missouri Republican claims 'legitimate rape' rarely results in pregnancy

    the guy is a moron
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    Re: Missouri Republican claims 'legitimate rape' rarely results in pregnancy

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Right here.
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1060814702

    Extreme stress reduces the chances of not only conception, but also viable pregnancy. Early miscarriage is very common even under the best of circumstances. It is not as though birth is inevitable whenever conception occurs. It is actually more likely it will be expelled. And even more so when under extreme stress.

    Some women who are raped will still become pregnant and maintain the pregnancy. But it is less likely. If they do, it does not make their rape any less "legitimate." But it is scientifically true that it is less likely.
    I understand and it's intuitive to me, that if a woman is under stress, she is less likely to get pregnant, but your links don't directly address rape as a trigger.

    If you have unprotected sex you have 5% chance of getting pregnant and that is the same rate of pregnancy from rape.

    Perhaps the closest we have to a robust figure is from a European study that recruited 782 young couples who did not use artificial contraception and who carefully recorded the day of every act (and there were a lot of them) until there had been 487 pregnancies. The simplest way to estimate the chance of pregnancy was to consider only cycles in which there had been only one act of intercourse. Peak times for pregnancies seemed to occur two days before ovulation Ė the chances of getting pregnant during this time was around 25%, confirming previous estimates. But the chances drop fairly steeply either side of the peak, to a 5% average over the rest of the cycle.

    The bottom line is that a single act of intercourse between a young couple has on average a one in 20 chance of pregnancy Ė this assumes the opportunity presented itself on a random day, as these things tend do when you are young.Perhaps the closest we have to a robust figure is from a European study that recruited 782 young couples who did not use artificial contraception and who carefully recorded the day of every act (and there were a lot of them) until there had been 487 pregnancies. The simplest way to estimate the chance of pregnancy was to consider only cycles in which there had been only one act of intercourse. Peak times for pregnancies seemed to occur two days before ovulation Ė the chances of getting pregnant during this time was around 25%, confirming previous estimates. But the chances drop fairly steeply either side of the peak, to a 5% average over the rest of the cycle.
    BBC - Future - Health - Sex: What are the chances?
    Pregnancies Resulting from Rape

    In 2004-2005, 64,080 women were raped.8 According to medical reports, the incidence of pregnancy for one-time unprotected sexual intercourse is 5%. By applying the pregnancy rate to 64,080 women, RAINN estimates that there were 3,204 pregnancies as a result of rape during that period.
    Who are the Victims? | RAINN | Rape, Abuse and Incest National Network

    These statistics don't seem to agree with rape as a trigger.

    Another reason I challenge this is the congressman's assertion: "If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.

    He seems to be implying if it's not a "legitimate" rape, then pregnancy will result, thus calling the question as to whether the woman who gets pregnant was actually raped.
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    Re: Missouri Republican claims 'legitimate rape' rarely results in pregnancy

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    the guy is a moron
    90% of the population are morons. What is surprising is that this guy has managed to rise to relatively high political office being one.
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    Re: Missouri Republican claims 'legitimate rape' rarely results in pregnancy

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    yes, that's almost as stupid as saying "they want to put ya'll back in chains"
    So you don't know the difference between rhetoric and ignorance. Interesting.
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    Re: Missouri Republican claims 'legitimate rape' rarely results in pregnancy

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So you don't know the difference between rhetoric and ignorance. Interesting.
    thanks for confirming your hypocrisy. ignorant rhetoric is still ignorance. the fact that you defend it is, indeed, interesting
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