This is obviously a talking point central bulletin there are so many copies floating around the interwebz.
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I guess President Obama is incharge of patrolling the Gulf for Submarines...
this isn't the 'gubmint' failing to detect it maynot even be the navy's fault.
I'd imagine we have run dozens of boats near them Roosians shores and slid away undetected. The problem with this story is you can't prove a negative. Just how many times have Roosian boats slid into 'The Gulf' undetected? it is like a man breaking into your house at night and watching you sleep for a bit and then slipping back out without you knowing. If he never slips up or has a bit of bad luck you will never know anything about all the other times unless he tells you.
We routinely run surveillance off china, we had a collision back in BushII's day as I recall. We routinely run surveillance off Roosian shores. We also run silent run deep off foreign shores as training, as long as we stay 12 miles out it is damn good training to practice procedures within sniffing distance of 'the enemy'.
You would have to be pretty naive to think no nukes travel within a few hundred miles of our coasts.
Or that we don't do the same thing to China and Roosia.
But I bet there are some out there who will figure out a way to connect this to Janet Napolitano!
Nothing in the story can be confirmed.
Was there a Russian sub in the Gulf? (And is this unusual?)
If so, is it true that the US was not aware of it? (And is this unusual?)
“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert”. – J Robert Oppenheimer.
Akula subs are very good and very quiet. But I've never heard about us struggling to detect them. And now this unofficial source pops in out of nowhere. I'm with wiseone. I find this report suspicious.
If it is not true, it won't be the first time someone was wrong on the internet. If it is true, then I guess we'll have to go back to making movies that show how horrible the Russians are. A remake of the movie Red Don is suppose to come out in November, so I guess we already have that taken care of. That is unless wiki is lying. I know its not considered credible, but this research really isn't all that important.
Red Dawn (2012 film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
armed with long-range cruise missiles
there is the first clue that this might be bogus....how do we know what the sub is armed with? Just because it is capable of carrying and launching the missles does not mean that the ship has them on board.
Certainly the fast attack sub I served on didn't advertise what kind of warheads we have on our ship.
I am not familiar with current submarines, but the fast attack is designed to take out boomers, as stated, so why cruise missles? those are long range missles, I would expect a torpedo or a shorter range missle to be used against a boomer, one that carries a torpedo that detaches from the missle after landing in the water....
All kinds of stink on this story, maybe someone still in the USN can answer this?
BTW, my last duty station in the Navy was at the Atlantic hub of the undersea surveillance system..in Norfolk... Last I heard the system was obsolete, even if still in place. I thought satellite surveillance was all we used now....any current sailors care to speak up?
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