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Papa John's Pizza To Raise Prices Because Of Obamacare, CEO John Schnatter Says

ttwtt78640 said:
Are you kidding me? The point is that PPACA increases the cost of all U.S. labor, without giving one cent of that increase to the average worker as a raise in pay. This will cause an increase in the cost of all U.S. goods and services, what we used to call inflation, but now call "fairness" or helping out the "little guy". Yes he did!
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I have no idea at all how you fed all that into a professed 11-14cts increase on a pizza order by the third largest pizza chain....you should more angry at the pizza chains that charge you 3.00 to deliver your friggin pie so you can pay their delivery employees and all their costs for them and they can still pocket another 1.50 for free per pie...
 
Daktoria said:
I wonder how much we would save on health care if people didn't order takeout.
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I wonder how much we would save on health care if unproductive citizens just died.... :shock:

Kidding, Kidding..... but we would save alot.......
 
OhIsee.Then said:
My thought is that hourly employees at Papa John's Pizza would be healthier since they would have basic health care thereby reducing costs at a typical papa John's. Also, many people would have more money to spend (e.g. the Tea Party family) since they would have gotten more timely medical care rather than ER care. Then there could be more cheese on the pizza for the same profit; oh poo, that would be unhealthy. (BTW, salaried Papa John's employees get great medical benefits etc.)
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Healthcare doesn't instantly make you healthier. I am just as healthy now as I would be if I didn't have any healthcare, because I don't require its use.
 
Shadow Serious said:
The reason people hit the roof for gas price increases is that purchasing gas is an obligatory cost and buying pizza is a voluntary cost. For most people having a car and using it is a necessity and purchasing pizza is not. Of course the Obama Care is going to impact the cost of food in all industries which is what the true focus should be. After all while purchasing and eating Papa John's Pizza is a voluntary act not eating period is not an option.
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Left foot.... Right foot.....

The world's free transportation.
 
lpast said:
I have no idea at all how you fed all that into a professed 11-14cts increase on a pizza order by the third largest pizza chain....you should more angry at the pizza chains that charge you 3.00 to deliver your friggin pie so you can pay their delivery employees and all their costs for them and they can still pocket another 1.50 for free per pie...
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Yep. Why discuss the PPACA law's impact on wages/prices, when we can change the subject to pizza delivery costs and look like we are staying "on topic"? We should be "angry" at everything but the costs of PPACA! Yes they can!
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Yep. Why discuss the PPACA law's impact on wages/prices, when we can change the subject to pizza delivery costs and look like we are staying "on topic"? We should be "angry" at everything but the costs of PPACA! Yes they can!
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Ive explained fully earlier in this thread why obamacare is a bargain...and Im not going through it it all again....I was in the pizza business for 30 yrs..
I just say this to you...the IMPACT on your taxs and the increased costs of medical care in this country relative to the MILLIONS of uninsured and illegal immigrants whos healthcare we pay for DAILY is far fold the small added costs of obamacare....but all you conservatives refuse to even acknowledge the incredible price tag were all paying for the uninusureds health care and have been.....you got this day dream in your head that you can make it all obamas fault for passing obamacare....
 
Shadow Serious said:
You know very well that is not an option for those who are not Metro-crats.
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It very much is an option. They are poor, and it is free.

Real poor people (not middle-upper class America's vision of what it is to be poor) will do what they have to do to survive. Ive seen poor folks cut a hole in the floor and drop a 5 gallon bucket down in the hole to use that as their toilet because they had no running water. Bucket gets full? pull it out and go steal another bucket from a work site somewhere....
 
Pinkie said:
Maybe yes, maybe no. Presumably these restaurants already have prices set at the maximum profit level -- charge more and fewer people will buy, charge less and some profit is left on the table.

It'd be hard to think of another business decision more core to success than pricing.
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There is no such thing as a "maximum profit level". The price level of everything is constantly in flux. Just look at the Stock Market channel to see evidence of this. And every company out there will increase thier prices given even a little excuse. Yet they will try their damndest to avoid lowering their prices. And Obamacare is a pretty damn good excuse for raising their prices.
 
Oh you know they are serious when the nanny state gets tossed about. :roll:

Pinkie, you will have to spell it out for me I guess, I don't see the downside in having more workers covered by health insurance. No the silver bullet but not the gloom and doom some predict.

BTW, this law doesn't help me and mine a lick, self employed we don't qualify for any of this, but I still think it is a good start for reforming healthcare.

So a little about what my wife and I have observed about Americans and eating. Tack on 25 cents a meal/pizza/bucket o' chicken or box of tacos and you will not affect the total sales a whit. My wife and I have been blessed in this country, we enjoy a comfortable life while off the ranch, going out to eat is common at least once or twice a week, delivery pizza or chicken once a week as well. Seems to me the volume of business done is pretty good, get there after 6 and you join quite a crowd waiting to be seated or an hour wait on delivery, sometimes 90 minutes.

It is going to take alot to knock America off it's eating out/delivery stride. Hell, we have 8.3% unemployment, the semi-sacred job creators, hallowed be thy name, all a fretting over taxes they imagine are coming and jobs are draining out of this country.

But try and get seated in the Outback or Applebees at 6 most nights...

Nanny state or serf state.... guess I'll go with the former- serfs don't build great nations.
 
johnny_rebson said:
Not if you put all the pizzerias out of business.
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Surely you jest? The pizza delivery business has successfully weathered changes in minimum wage and wide fluctuations in the price of gasoline and continues to flourish. Do you really think this industry would be "wiped out" by a cost component that is less than 2% of its total cost (and that is just taking some hypothetical view of what the cost is, as I am sure their CEO, like many others, are overstating the impact for effect AND not considering any benefit).
 
Caine said:
It very much is an option. They are poor, and it is free.

Real poor people (not middle-upper class America's vision of what it is to be poor) will do what they have to do to survive. Ive seen poor folks cut a hole in the floor and drop a 5 gallon bucket down in the hole to use that as their toilet because they had no running water. Bucket gets full? pull it out and go steal another bucket from a work site somewhere....
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Did they sell the buckets to Papa John's?
 
Please tell me I'm not the only person to notice the incredible irony of a PIZZA company losing on its bottom line because of health reasons.

Really? It's no big deal that some Americans repeatedly indulge in pizzas that have over 100 calories per slice and are thus adding to everyone's premiums, yet it's liberal socialist tyranny that the price of an entire pizza may have just gone up by a whopping fifteen cents? Really, conservatives, really? And you wonder why we don't listen to you?
 
Caine said:
Healthcare doesn't instantly make you healthier. I am just as healthy now as I would be if I didn't have any healthcare, because I don't require its use.
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Are you lucky, or are you Good? But, I see that those that need healthcare services are the bad ones. Like the Tea Party family we met at a demonstration. If he wan't bad he woldn't have been assigned to dispose of agent orange, right? But it did take a while for him to get really sick, and health care wouldn't have made him instantly much healthier. His fault though right?
 
Caine said:
Left foot.... Right foot.....

The world's free transportation.
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Only if you're healthy enough. But you'd just say we don't need people that can't "Left foot.... Right foot....." I can understand the POV.
 
OhIsee.Then said:
Are you lucky, or are you Good? But, I see that those that need healthcare services are the bad ones. Like the Tea Party family we met at a demonstration. If he wan't bad he woldn't have been assigned to dispose of agent orange, right? But it did take a while for him to get really sick, and health care wouldn't have made him instantly much healthier. His fault though right?
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How many people in the US are going to come across agent orange? Not that it matters since being as he was assigned to dispose of it then that was his job, and being as disposing of such things is the governments job then that means he was a government employee. Which means he is not only getting paid his wage by you but you are also paying for his life long healthcare. Regardless if he's poor or rich.

Bad bad analogy.
 
Kal'Stang said:
How many people in the US are going to come across agent orange?
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There was a rather large number of them. But I guess your saying that agent orange was a unique case and nothing like that has ever happend.
Kal'Stang said:
Not that it matters since being as he was assigned to dispose of it then that was his job, and being as disposing of such things is the governments job then that means he was a government employee.
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Only if you call a Army private a government employee.
Kal'Stang said:
Which means he is not only getting paid his wage by you but you are also paying for his life long healthcare. Regardless if he's poor or rich.
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No one is paying his bill directly. You are paying indirectly the high cost of ER care because of lack of lower cost and more benificial care he should have recieved. He has and had no insurance.

Kal'Stang said:
Bad bad analogy.
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Oh, explain.
 
Caine said:
Healthcare doesn't instantly make you healthier. I am just as healthy now as I would be if I didn't have any healthcare, because I don't require its use.
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When your young...you only need healthcare if you get hurt or if you contact an illness...that is if your naturally healthy...If you were unlucky to be born with a permanent regressive ailment...then you need healthcare...as you age you need increasingly more healthcare....Your a puppy caine...you just learned to piss outside....your turn is coming youngster :)
 
OhIsee.Then said:
Only if you're healthy enough. But you'd just say we don't need people that can't "Left foot.... Right foot....." I can understand the POV.
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Maybe that is the root of their problem in the first place?

Exercise can fix many problems better than prescription drugs can.....
 
lpast said:
When your young...you only need healthcare if you get hurt or if you contact an illness...that is if your naturally healthy...If you were unlucky to be born with a permanent regressive ailment...then you need healthcare...as you age you need increasingly more healthcare....Your a puppy caine...you just learned to piss outside....your turn is coming youngster :)
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Im like.... 45% dead.
 
I was young and foolish once and thought that big S on my chest meant I was Superman too, Caine. Fact is at your age injury can strike you at any moment, not just army privates. The problem with some folks is until it does strike they shrug and ignore the possibility- until it slaps them in the face.

Your 'thinking' transferred to retirement is why social security has been so central to American Seniors. Don't want to pay for something til AFTER you need it, but you will be outraged at the cost if it is cash upfront.

My life since the Army must be a bit more outgoing and exposed to a lot more risk than yours. Do you live in a bunker and have NBC filters?
 
notquiteright said:
I was young and foolish once and thought that big S on my chest meant I was Superman too, Caine. Fact is at your age injury can strike you at any moment, not just army privates. The problem with some folks is until it does strike they shrug and ignore the possibility- until it slaps them in the face.

Your 'thinking' transferred to retirement is why social security has been so central to American Seniors. Don't want to pay for something til AFTER you need it, but you will be outraged at the cost if it is cash upfront.

My life since the Army must be a bit more outgoing and exposed to a lot more risk than yours. Do you live in a bunker and have NBC filters?
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No.

I am a police officer.

But I still have some of my old NBC equipment (I was an NBC NCO in the 82nd).
 
Laughing-
so you have access to fairly good health insurance for you and yours funded in large part by the taxpayer. Too funny. :lamo

So you really do think that big S is for superman?

My experience with MOPP was wearing it in a wide variety of units as a 'line doggy'. That is where I learned my S was just a set of oversized Underroos. ;)

Since then both the wife and I have had accidents due to a very active lifestyle, hers from riding, mine from being in a profession more likely to cause injury than Law Enforcement- agriculture.

I do hope your Underroo moment isn't too painful...
 
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