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Papa John's Pizza To Raise Prices Because Of Obamacare, CEO John Schnatter Says

funny I believe my post has facts, the vague wave at illegal immigrants and asking a question-
with NO, ZERO, NADA facts was not my post...

nice try at deflection, figure facts to support the illegal immigrant are sinking us vs the overwhelming evidence of 'real' Americans being the bulk of unpaid medical bills must have you stopped short...

better luck next time.... :peace
 
I have to post this again.
A Tea Party family was at the demonstration, father, mother and one 10 year old son; two more at home. My wife and I chatted with them. The father is a vet that started serving just after the Viet War ended. He was disposing of Agent Orange; which in our opinion may have been the source of his health problems. He had a heart attack about 6 months earlier. Went to the hospital where his wife works as a low level employee. What she said she did only pays low wages. They 'couldn't afford' the extra for family health insurance, she was the only one insured since that can’t be refused for more pay. His bill was about $90,000. Her wages were garnished by the hospital; it’s only a small garnishment so it will take a very long time to pay it off. Again, they were there with a Don’t Tread On Me flag and more. One of the things they were demonstrating against was Obama Care.

I haven't got any explainations on how we can call this the proper way to provide health care.
 
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Considering the owner himself is very very well off Kentucky republican that contributes to Mitch McConnell and others why is this even news? Oh yeah, cuz were all goddamn fat.
 
johnny_rebson said:
Not if you put all the pizzerias out of business.
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Do you really think that is realistic? For $.14 to put a pizzeria out of business
For example what happens when gas goes up ~$1.00 from winter-summer? Does papa johns just stop in summer? No?
 
Lachean said:
20 cents wont buy you 1/2 an once of cheese, not even @ wholesale.
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Thorgasm said:
How much do you think that mozzarella cheese costs per pound?
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Lachean said:
$13.99 on average is what I found online.
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Thorgasm said:
If that is what every pizza place paid for cheese they would all be out of business.

I found $2.52/lb. right off the bat. Pizza chains get it even cheaper.
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I can't believe that people are missing the most hilarious part of this exchange.

Lachean is claiming Thor's proposal wouldn't work because you can't get a 1/2 ounce of mozzarella for $0.20. So he cites a price that would lead to savings of about $0.44 per pizza (double the 20 cents thor claims would be saved by using 1/2 ounce less) if Papa Johns followed thor's plan. This means Lachean should be saying say "Thor, your plan is brilliant. They'd actually pull off those savings using only a 1/4 ounce less per pizza because Mozzarella is so expensive!"

Thor cites a price which would mean his proposal of 1/2 ounce less cheese per pizza would only save the company about $0.08 per pizza. With that price, Thor should be saying "You're right, Lachean. The proposal wouldn't work because Mozzarella is too cheap. They'd have to use at least an ounce less to make up the difference."

Because thor's right about the price of mozzarella, Lachean's right about not enough savings from using 1/2 less cheese. If Lachean was right about the price of cheese, Thor would have been right about the savings (he'd have low-balled them, actually).

Therefore you both lose and I win :lol:
 
I wonder how much we would save on health care if people didn't order takeout.
 
My thought is that hourly employees at Papa John's Pizza would be healthier since they would have basic health care thereby reducing costs at a typical papa John's. Also, many people would have more money to spend (e.g. the Tea Party family) since they would have gotten more timely medical care rather than ER care. Then there could be more cheese on the pizza for the same profit; oh poo, that would be unhealthy. (BTW, salaried Papa John's employees get great medical benefits etc.)
 
I have to clarify the reduced costs at Papa John's if employees have Obama Care. If your employees have health care they show up on time more often and more prepared for work and they don't have to be replaced as often.
 
dontworrybehappy said:
Do you work for a pizza joint? Didn't think so, that means he wasn't addressing you. But nice interjection of hot air.

That's funny, when gas goes up 20 cents people hit the roof. When pizza goes up 20 cents, it's "why complain?" Someone took the hypocritical oath, I see.

And don't start giving me bull**** about the price difference. 20 cents is 20 cents, and excuses are excuses. I don't know if the left has 20 cents, but they sure have excuses.
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The reason people hit the roof for gas price increases is that purchasing gas is an obligatory cost and buying pizza is a voluntary cost. For most people having a car and using it is a necessity and purchasing pizza is not. Of course the Obama Care is going to impact the cost of food in all industries which is what the true focus should be. After all while purchasing and eating Papa John's Pizza is a voluntary act not eating period is not an option.
 
OhIsee.Then said:
I have to clarify the reduced costs at Papa John's if employees have Obama Care. If your employees have health care they show up on time more often and more prepared for work and they don't have to be replaced as often.
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I felt like **** for 10 something years. Congestive Heart Failure, now that I have health care I feel so much better and am looking to restart my career.
 
winston53660 said:
I felt like **** for 10 something years. Congestive Heart Failure, now that I have health care I feel so much better and am looking to restart my career.
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Sorry. I trust you are doing better now.
Please inform us why didn't you find out about your condition sooner.
 
OhIsee.Then said:
Sorry. I trust you are doing better now.
Please inform us why didn't you find out about your condition sooner.
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Several reasons, the onset of this condition takes years to manifest. And of course lack of health insurance. When I walked into the county hospital I had pitting edema and about 30 pounds of fluid on me. My ejection fraction had dwindled to 10% (60% is normal, 30% is considered congestive heart failure) and my myopathy (enlargement of the heart) was classified as severe. For years I tire easily, slur my speech, get confused, etc. I think a lot of this could have been prevented with regular healthcare and insurance.
 
Just thought everyone should know for some perspective...There are around 3 billion pizza's sold in the US per year. A .14 cent raise per pizza would net an extra $420,000,000 per year. Papa Johns from what I understand sells about 10 million pizza's per year. Thats $1,400,000 per year for that .14 cent raise that people will ultimately end up spending.

Now I'm sure that most of the people on this forum are not stupid. Yeah we all know this isn't much in the grand scheme of things. But what if EVERY company raises thier prices this way? Just how much will people be spending then? Is it over the amount that is spent on the uninsured? The whole reason for Obamacare....I would wager that the answer is "yes".

So if you were complaining before about having to spend money to help support the uninsured and wanted Obamacare....well...what do you think now?
 
Moot said:
I was just responding to your statement....

"...I agree with you that it is responsible for Papa John's to conform their prices to those of their competitors, but I don't agree if you are implying that trying to maximize profit is irresponsible for any business...".

If it's not the issue then why did you bring it up?
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Lord have mercy, Moot, wanna debate the issue or not?
 
Kal'Stang said:
The amount of employees per store is not what Obamacare goes by. It goes by the amount of employee's per company.
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If this is true, it's yet another needless layer of uncertainty to blast Obamacare for.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Do you really think that it will be just Papa Johns that raise's their price because of Obamacare? I have no doubt that the others will also...they just won't be so upfront with it.
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Maybe yes, maybe no. Presumably these restaurants already have prices set at the maximum profit level -- charge more and fewer people will buy, charge less and some profit is left on the table.

It'd be hard to think of another business decision more core to success than pricing.

 
notquiteright said:
Course right now 'we' are paying for the uninsured to get healthcare in the most expensive place- the ER- where critical care patients can have a harder struggle to receive timely care, doctors distracted by the sea of uninsured trying to get help for their children.

The hospital and the doctors are not eating the 'loss' from uninsured coming into the ER and not paying the bill.

Guess who is?

Now some want to set up a system where healthcare for non-emergency patients is billed at something less than trauma care rates, at say, clinic rates. Imagine the price difference between a visit to the ER for a strep throat vs the cost at the AM/PM clinic. My last visit to the 'quick care' clinic was 65 bucks plus medicine, Imagine what that would have cost the hospital if I had clogged up the ER? 65 bucks vs 300+

Right now those whining about the increase cost of a healthcare plan for currently uninsured, seem ignorant of how their medical bills are being paid. When a hospital charges 5 bucks for an aspirin they claim it is to cover the costs of those who are uninsured and don't pay their bills.

Just something to think about while you decry 14 cents extra for a pizza...
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The harm Obamacare does does not lie in extending health coverage to more Americans, notquiteright, at least not IMO.
 
Hatuey said:
If your multibillion dollar business can't survive a 20 cent increase in product prices, your problem isn't ObamaCare.
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Your point and tuckers that if you cant afford 20ct for a pizza order ...you shouldnt be ordering pizza ...has been my whole point throughout this thread.
Papajohn made a good case FOR obamacare instead of making it look bad as far as im concerned
 
lpast said:
Your point and tuckers that if you cant afford 20ct for a pizza order ...you shouldnt be ordering pizza ...has been my whole point throughout this thread.
Papajohn made a good case FOR obamacare instead of making it look bad as far as im concerned
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Are you kidding me? The point is that PPACA increases the cost of all U.S. labor, without giving one cent of that increase to the average worker as a raise in pay. This will cause an increase in the cost of all U.S. goods and services, what we used to call inflation, but now call "fairness" or helping out the "little guy". Yes he did!
 
The additional cost of healthcare for employees has to come from somewhere... I am pretty sure Obama would love to see it come from "Obscene Corporate Profits" whatever those are...

See the thing is Papa Johns Corp will raise prices $.14, but francisees may have to raised the substantially ... not every papa johns is owned by Papa Johns... and those smaller francise operators may have a signifigantly higher per employee cost... wonder if anyone else has brought thatup yet?
 
lpast said:
Your point and tuckers that if you cant afford 20ct for a pizza order ...you shouldnt be ordering pizza ...has been my whole point throughout this thread.
Papajohn made a good case FOR obamacare instead of making it look bad as far as im concerned
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WOW... there's a nanny stater right there ... if you can't give us just a little more than maybe you dont deserve ...

*SMH
 
lpast said:
Your point and tuckers that if you cant afford 20ct for a pizza order ...you shouldnt be ordering pizza ...has been my whole point throughout this thread.
Papajohn made a good case FOR obamacare instead of making it look bad as far as im concerned
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It isnt about "IF you have it" or not... it is a matter of what right is it of the government to forcibly remove from us, our property to redestribute it to a third party.

THAT is the core of the matter.
 
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