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    Re: Papa John's Pizza To Raise Prices Because Of Obamacare, CEO John Schnatter Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Pizza Hut I will give you the "Better pizza" label.

    Dominos is rubber ****.
    Yet, they are Papa John's main competitors and Domino's is running to neck to neck with Papa John's. I seen a few people on this forum say they didn't care for Papa John's pizza. Personally, I don't like any of the franchised pizzas and buy from a local pizzaria. But I also think the owner of Papa John's is just using the media to get free national attention and his threat is mostly hot air. Maybe he hopes there will be a national Papa John's appreciation day if keeps making a big enough political stink.

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    Re: Papa John's Pizza To Raise Prices Because Of Obamacare, CEO John Schnatter Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Yet, they are Papa John's main competitors and Domino's is running to neck to neck with Papa John's. I seen a few people on this forum say they didn't care for Papa John's pizza. Personally, I don't like any of the franchised pizzas and buy from a local pizzaria. But I also think the owner of Papa John's is just using the media to get free national attention and his threat is mostly hot air. Maybe he hopes there will be a national Papa John's appreciation day if keeps making a big enough political stink.
    Very possibly. Seems to be chic for all our fast food joints now to tell us how they feel about one hot-button issue or another.
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    Re: Papa John's Pizza To Raise Prices Because Of Obamacare, CEO John Schnatter Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Worrying more about maximizing profits for share holders instead of spending on keeping a company competitive is what runs a lot of companies into the ground. Just ask Romney, he's an expert at it.
    Yes, you can ruin any business by extracting too much cash from it for the owners. I don't quite see what that has to do with the issue at hand.

    Many businesses fail, and I'm sure this is often why they do. The issue is whether government, through Obamacare, will make it harder for well-run businesses to succeed?

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    Re: Papa John's Pizza To Raise Prices Because Of Obamacare, CEO John Schnatter Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Oddly, in this copy-paste from the teacher's edition of an online textbook (with the Google search terms left highlighted), you didn't actually answer the question.

    At best, you posted second-hand "criticism" of some companies.

    What you didn't do is provide definitive examples of companies which failed because it chose profit maximization over "competitiveness."
    Yes I did answer your question Harshaw, and now you're trying to move the goal post. Sorry, but that pig doesn't fly. I'm done with playing your stupid fallacious games.

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    Re: Papa John's Pizza To Raise Prices Because Of Obamacare, CEO John Schnatter Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Yes I did answer your question Harshaw, and now you're trying to move the goal post. Sorry, but that pig doesn't fly. I'm done with playing your stupid fallacious games.


    No, you didn't, Moot, and I'm not moving anything. This is what I said:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Worrying more about maximizing profits for share holders instead of spending on keeping a company competitive is what runs a lot of companies into the ground.
    Nonsense. This is self-contradictory.

    Give definitive examples. Don't dodge.
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    What you didn't do is provide definitive examples of companies which failed because it chose profit maximization over "competitiveness."
    Is a restatement of the exact same challenge. You did not provide this.
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    Re: Papa John's Pizza To Raise Prices Because Of Obamacare, CEO John Schnatter Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    Yes, you can ruin any business by extracting too much cash from it for the owners. I don't quite see what that has to do with the issue at hand.

    Many businesses fail, and I'm sure this is often why they do. The issue is whether government, through Obamacare, will make it harder for well-run businesses to succeed?
    I was just responding to your statement....

    "...I agree with you that it is responsible for Papa John's to conform their prices to those of their competitors, but I don't agree if you are implying that trying to maximize profit is irresponsible for any business...".

    If it's not the issue then why did you bring it up?

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    Re: Papa John's Pizza To Raise Prices Because Of Obamacare, CEO John Schnatter Says

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Its not...hes a big romney supporter....its a fabricrated issue...Papa Johns Has alot of pizzerias but none of them have alot of employees...the one near me has 3 employees on at a time...and its not a 24 hr operation. Aside from that 11 cts on a pizza is chump change for a pizza maker...believe they eat bigger chunks than that in a tri monthly wholesale increase
    As a many year small business owner...I truly believe, happy healthy employees, translates into more success for your business and MORE PROFIT FOR YOU....I paid my shop managers and assts 3.00 an hour min more than my competititor and I got it back at least double from them in loyalty and respect honesty and dedication...and I stand by that statment completely.
    The amount of employees per store is not what Obamacare goes by. It goes by the amount of employee's per company.
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    Re: Papa John's Pizza To Raise Prices Because Of Obamacare, CEO John Schnatter Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Because if Domino's or Pizza Hut can give their employees the same health care benefits without punishing their customers with higher costs and still serve a better pizza then thats where my money is going to be spent.
    Do you really think that it will be just Papa Johns that raise's their price because of Obamacare? I have no doubt that the others will also...they just won't be so upfront with it.
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    Re: Papa John's Pizza To Raise Prices Because Of Obamacare, CEO John Schnatter Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    The amount of employees per store is not what Obamacare goes by. It goes by the amount of employee's per company.
    True, but Papa John's is a franchise, so the per store employee count is pretty much on target (certainly there are many multiple store operations, but at 3-5 employees per store, a 10 store operator would be pretty large and under the threshold). Sounds as if the Papa John's CEO is making a $.30 mountain out of a mole hill. This is pretty much a non-issue regarding Papa John's (and most other similarly situated franchise operations). Let's move on!
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    Re: Papa John's Pizza To Raise Prices Because Of Obamacare, CEO John Schnatter Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Do you really think that it will be just Papa Johns that raise's their price because of Obamacare? I have no doubt that the others will also...they just won't be so upfront with it.
    I think it will depend on the size of the business and whether or not they already have employee health insurance.

    https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q...wZueRwBYhUzvKA


    "...The structure of a Papa John's restaurant is typical of that seen in many fast-food outlets, with a salaried store manager presiding over day-to-day operations, and several salaried or hourly assistant managers and shift managers presiding over in-store and delivery team members. Above the store management is an area supervisor who is generally supervised by a franchisee or; in corporate stores, a director of operations reports to an operational vice president....

    Papa John's Pizza - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Most of Papa John's businesses are franchises with a store and/or they sell their pizzas inside of other stores and each francise most likely has well under 50 employees including management. So no, I don't think the ACA will effect most of them at all.

    Most large companies already have employee insurance so it's the medium size businesses with 50 or more employees that will probably notice a change. Thats not to say that a Papa John franchise doesn't have mulitple stores in it's area and could have more than a 100 employees, but I doubt it. I think as a company starts to grow and expand most of them tend to get health insurance for their employees anyway. AFA will actually help small companies with less than 20 employees compete because they won't have to pay for AFA insurance and that will offset the difference of what they've been paying for other regulations per employee compared to mid size companies....

    see chart.... Annual Cost of Federal Regulations by Firm size
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