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    Re: Honoring America's Veterans Act Signed By Obama, Restricting Westboro Military Fu

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    Abuse is not just physical. Have you ever lost a loved one, one that makes it hard to breath to just htink of their loss? If you have, you will know this is abuse. Sickening abuse. No one should have to endure it.
    No one should have to endure a lot of ****, but it's a free country and WBC was not infringing upon any one's rights in the least.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Honoring America's Veterans Act Signed By Obama, Restricting Westboro Military Fu

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Like this...

    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
    Way off topic. But ok.


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    Re: Honoring America's Veterans Act Signed By Obama, Restricting Westboro Military Fu

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No one should have to endure a lot of ****, but it's a free country and WBC was not infringing upon any one's rights in the least.
    Not that free. As noted, there is no absolute right. We make reasonable restrictions all the time. And not abusing me while I bury a loved one is perhaps the most reasonable restriction I've seen in a long time. A friend of mine recently lost his only son. I can't imagine how much he'd have suffered if he had to endure that abuse. I don't know that I could have sat and listened to it without acting. I'm sorry, but it is too much to ask of people to tolerate.

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    Re: Honoring America's Veterans Act Signed By Obama, Restricting Westboro Military Fu

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    'Ya know, I'm a little torn on this, but I like the rule. My first knee jerk reaction is that even douche bags have first amendment rights. But, when I think a little more, I think of what limits there might be on the first amendment. Certainly, a member of Westboro does not have the right to invade my home and protest. After all, that is my privacy (not to mention my property). So how far can the first amendment argument be pushed before it begins to violate the rights of others? After careful thought, I have have to agree with Obama on this one. If Westboro wants to protest military funerals, let them do it from their church. They don't have the right to invade the privacy of others, and hurt them while they are grieving over a family member. It is tacky, and now it is illegal.

    Now that running over the rights of the families of deceased soldiers is illegal, the Patriot Guard is probably no longer needed. At this time, I would like to thank the Patriot Guard from the bottom of my heart, for what they did to confront and defeat the agenda of these assholes who are going to fry in hell for using the word of God to spread such hatred.

    Agreed. They still have Freedom of Speech, but now others have Freedom to not Listen (if that makes any sense)

    They can still spew hatred, but those who don't want to see or hear it don't have to.

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    Re: Honoring America's Veterans Act Signed By Obama, Restricting Westboro Military Fu

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not that free. As noted, there is no absolute right.
    This is true, the one and only natural limit to rights is that you may not infringe upon the rights of others. And WBC did not. You don't need to tolerate it. You can hate it, and counter protest, and bitch all you want; you just cannot justly stop it.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Honoring America's Veterans Act Signed By Obama, Restricting Westboro Military Fu

    Quote Originally Posted by EyesWideOpen View Post
    They still have Freedom of Speech, but now others have Freedom to not Listen (if that makes any sense)
    It makes no sense. You have no right over vibrations of the air. You can, however, choose to ignore it.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Honoring America's Veterans Act Signed By Obama, Restricting Westboro Military Fu

    Your opinion may change if you were grieving the loss of a loved one while people were screaming your loved one deserved to die.
    I think most people understand your point, they just don't agree with it.

    One persons rights doesn't negate another's rights.

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    Re: Honoring America's Veterans Act Signed By Obama, Restricting Westboro Military Fu

    Quote Originally Posted by EyesWideOpen View Post
    One persons rights doesn't negate another's rights.
    While this is true. WBC violated no one's rights.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Honoring America's Veterans Act Signed By Obama, Restricting Westboro Military Fu

    Quote Originally Posted by EyesWideOpen View Post
    Your opinion may change if you were grieving the loss of a loved one while people were screaming your loved one deserved to die.
    I think most people understand your point, they just don't agree with it.

    One persons rights doesn't negate another's rights.
    Whos rights are being violated here?


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    Re: Honoring America's Veterans Act Signed By Obama, Restricting Westboro Military Fu

    What about one's right to privacy? As much as I agree with a previous post that this may be just a preview of more and more rights being slowly taken away, there must be a threshold of where one person's rights stop and another's starts.

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