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    Re: Honoring America's Veterans Act Signed By Obama, Restricting Westboro Military Fu

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    No, it's a precedent to be use later to encrouch some more, and then more again later....until your liberty is gone.
    Oh ****! Someone who gets it.
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    Re: Honoring America's Veterans Act Signed By Obama, Restricting Westboro Military Fu

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I think i posted one last week...where they went to a service but was swarmed by thousands who blocked them from getting near or disrupting the service....You do realize that one day they are going to cause some nutjob to go off and start mowing them down....Im shocked it hasnt happened already.....they attempted to block a service quite recently and were foiled
    They never actually go to the actual funeral services they go outside the funeral service outside the cemetery where they are in clear view of the public. They are nothing but camera whores.


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    Re: Honoring America's Veterans Act Signed By Obama, Restricting Westboro Military Fu

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What does it matter? Your right to freedom of speech, doesn't give you the right to harass others at their events. We have a million kind of laws where things like freedom of speech do not trump things like property rights.
    Actually it does. If harass of course you mean having a ****ed up interpretation of the bible....


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    Re: Honoring America's Veterans Act Signed By Obama, Restricting Westboro Military Fu

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

    Uhhh where is the limit in this?
    This is clearly prohibiting the free exercise of speech and assembly.
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    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
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    Re: Honoring America's Veterans Act Signed By Obama, Restricting Westboro Military Fu

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    Right. People killed and were killed for the freedom to harass and insult people at funerals.
    The Constitution is very clear about the limits of free speech, and so is the oath that members of our military take.
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    Re: Honoring America's Veterans Act Signed By Obama, Restricting Westboro Military Fu

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    What if one is trying to protest at a funeral not to exalt the death of the soldier, but rather to protest the actions of government which led to the death? Is that not legitimate protest? Not under this law it's not, off you go and enjoy jail.

    I cannot believe there are people who support bills like this, I have to wonder if they've thought any of this through.
    Not to be done at a funeral. When the planes bring the bodies home? OK. At the convention, go for it. On the forth? Sure. There are all kinds of places I'd allow, even for WBC vermin. But, familes losing a love one should not have to be forced to listen to that vile garbage. Just as you can't yell fire in a crowded theater, the right is not absolute. And this is not political supression. This is allowing families the right to peacefully bury their loved ones.

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    Re: Honoring America's Veterans Act Signed By Obama, Restricting Westboro Military Fu

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Like this...

    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
    Neither are absolute.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Honoring America's Veterans Act Signed By Obama, Restricting Westboro Military Fu

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not to be done at a funeral. When the planes bring the bodies home? OK. At the convention, go for it. On the forth? Sure. There are all kinds of places I'd allow, even for WBC vermin. But, familes losing a love one should not have to be forced to listen to that vile garbage. Just as you can't yell fire in a crowded theater, the right is not absolute. And this is not political supression. This is allowing families the right to peacefully bury their loved ones.
    You cannot yell Fire in a crowded theater when there is no fire because it will cause panic and directly cause a situation which endangers the rights of others. The same is not true for protesting at a funeral.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Honoring America's Veterans Act Signed By Obama, Restricting Westboro Military Fu

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You cannot yell Fire in a crowded theater when there is no fire because it will cause panic and directly cause a situation which endangers the rights of others. The same is not true for protesting at a funeral.
    But it can and likely will eventual lead to violence. I'm shocked it hasn't already. But the point is, they are free to speak, to protest, to be a vile as they want to be, but leave the grieving family alone. This is not hardship or abuse on free speech.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Honoring America's Veterans Act Signed By Obama, Restricting Westboro Military Fu

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    But it can and likely will eventual lead to violence. I'm shocked it hasn't already. But the point is, they are free to speak, to protest, to be a vile as they want to be, but leave the grieving family alone. This is not hardship or abuse on free speech.
    It can maybe, possibly, under these certain conditions, almost be able to is not legitimate reason to curtail an exercise of a right. They are not advocating violence and they have not caused any massive call to violence either. They have not infringed upon the rights of others during the course of their stupid spewing. As such, they must be left alone.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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