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    Cuba Celebrates 59th Anniversary Of Revolution

    HAVANA — Cuban President Raul Castro said Thursday that his government is willing to mend fences with bitter Cold War foe the United States and sit down to discuss anything, as long as it is a conversation between equals.
    At the end of a Revolution Day ceremony marking the 59th anniversary of a failed uprising against a military barracks, Castro grabbed the microphone for apparently impromptu remarks. He echoed previous statements that no topic is off-limits, including U.S. concerns about democracy, freedom of the press and human rights on the island, as long as it is a conversation between equals.
    "Any day they want, the table is set. This has already been said through diplomatic channels," Castro said. "If they want to talk, we will talk."Washington would have to be prepared to hear Cuba's own complaints about the treatment of those issues in the United States and its European allies, he added."We are nobody's colony, nobody's puppet," Castro said.Washington and Havana have not had diplomatic relations for five decades, and the 50-year-old U.S. embargo outlaws nearly all trade and travel to the island.

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    Raúl: Resisting the empire for 50 years is the great accomplishment of the Cuban people
    President of the Councils of State and Minister, Army General Raúl Castro congratulated the people of Guantánamo for their efforts and the magnificent 26th of July commemoration, conveying to them a warm embrace from Fidel

    At the conclusion of the national commemoration of the assault on the Moncada and Carlos Manuel de Céspedes garrisons, Raúl said that resisting the empire for 50 years is the great accomplishment of the Cuban people

    Raúl reiterated that the updating of the country’s economic and social model must continue to progress, without haste, but without delay. He reaffirmed that Cuba does not fear discussion of any issue with the United States, as long as such discussion is based on equal terms.

    Also speaking during the impressive event in Guantánamo, which began at 7:00am, were a young pioneer, the province’s Party Secretary Luis Torres Iribar, and First Vice President of the Council of State and Ministers, José Ramón Machado Ventura.
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    Re: Cuba Celebrates 59th Anniversary Of Revolution

    wowi didnt know people celebrate poverty,starvation,and oppression,oh wait you must mean the well fed comunist leaders who get plenty of food and dont have to worry about their buildings collapsing on them.

    btw the us embargo line is bs,alot of european and south american countries still trade with cuba,infact all not being able to trade with the united states did was add shipping costs from europe.
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    Re: Cuba Celebrates 59th Anniversary Of Revolution

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    wowi didnt know people celebrate poverty,starvation,and oppression,oh wait you must mean the well fed comunist leaders who get plenty of food and dont have to worry about their buildings collapsing on them.
    Starvation?


    btw the us embargo line is bs,alot of european and south american countries still trade with cuba,infact all not being able to trade with the united states did was add shipping costs from europe.
    Well it costs it about 5 billion dollars a year. So ummm not so much bull****. Ever heard of the Helms Burton act? Applies the embargo to foreign companies doing business with Cuba.


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    Starvation?




    Well it costs it about 5 billion dollars a year. So ummm not so much bull****. Ever heard of the Helms Burton act? Applies the embargo to foreign companies doing business with Cuba.
    wow their economy is soo bad 5 billion a year cripples them???????that just says its bad.i guess thats why russians had no problems pumping money into cuba,cuz the bill was so cheap.

    for starvation,oh yeah they gotz it,they have had it ever since russia stoped pumping billions in their economy.their houses are collapsing,people have been without running water and electricity in many areas,food is scarce,so is medicine and other supplies.

    just the fact cuba has blocked cubans from leaving or seeing the western world proves such a mess,after all if cuba was so great,why has castro gone to great lengths to hide anything western or modern from them,such as prosperity,food for 3 meals a day,and buildings that dont collapse on them like they do in the ultra mega poor districts in india.

    Millions of Cubans facing starvation: Hunger is fuelling an exodus of desperate refugees, writes Phil Davison from Havana - World - News - The Independent
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    Re: Cuba Celebrates 59th Anniversary Of Revolution

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    wow their economy is soo bad 5 billion a year cripples them???????that just says its bad.i guess thats why russians had no problems pumping money into cuba,cuz the bill was so cheap.
    How big do you think a small islands economy is?


    for starvation,oh yeah they gotz it,they have had it ever since russia stoped pumping billions in their economy.their houses are collapsing,people have been without running water and electricity in many areas,food is scarce,so is medicine and other supplies.

    just the fact cuba has blocked cubans from leaving or seeing the western world proves such a mess,after all if cuba was so great,why has castro gone to great lengths to hide anything western or modern from them,such as prosperity,food for 3 meals a day,and buildings that dont collapse on them like they do in the ultra mega poor districts in india.

    Millions of Cubans facing starvation: Hunger is fuelling an exodus of desperate refugees, writes Phil Davison from Havana - World - News - The Independent
    Have a quick question. If people are "starving" in Cuba how do they have the longest life expectancy in the region? Living longer than US citizens? How do they have a high HDI as well?


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    Re: Cuba Celebrates 59th Anniversary Of Revolution

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    How big do you think a small islands economy is?




    Have a quick question. If people are "starving" in Cuba how do they have the longest life expectancy in the region? Living longer than US citizens? How do they have a high HDI as well?
    one how big is a small islands economy???before the socialist revolution they were among the best economy in latin america,and production was so high for agriculture they were exporting to other countries,after fidel castro and his socialism works better than this innefeciant capitalist system,it turned to cuba importing 80% of its food.cuba went from being one of the best to the worst.



    really couldnt care about life expentancy considering they are dirt poor and starving with almost no medical care.its great they have no high fructose corn syrup to give them cancer,just that much longer they can live until their roof colapses and kills them or they get a non cancer disease their communist country cant cure because their communist leader blocks despite countries in europe and south america who dont care about the imbargo,but he doesnt care,he doesnt want them to see that there is anything greener than starvation and poverty.
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    Re: Cuba Celebrates 59th Anniversary Of Revolution

    Where's Sandokan when you need him?
    "I do not claim that every incident in the history of empire can be explained in directly economic terms. Economic interests are filtered through a political process, policies are implemented by a complex state apparatus, and the whole system generates its own momentum."

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    Re: Cuba Celebrates 59th Anniversary Of Revolution

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    How big do you think a small islands economy is?




    Have a quick question. If people are "starving" in Cuba how do they have the longest life expectancy in the region? Living longer than US citizens? How do they have a high HDI as well?
    first question before comunisn they were among the highest ranking economy even though their population was smal.after communtism their gdp and productio went stagnant,explain why they went from exporting a large amount of crops to inporting 80% of their food?????????


    second life expentancy in cuba,i already said they dont have all the high fructose corn syrup and processed foods.it still dowsnt change the fact that our poor have a higher standard of living that their general population.


    oh its so grand,we have guaranteed jobs that feed us every other day,we live a little longer without processed foods,but we are miserable and will die anyways from our roofs collapsing/.
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    Re: Cuba Celebrates 59th Anniversary Of Revolution

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Cuba is not going away. Until we actually want to have a discussion with them that is the day we can move forward on this issue.
    I agree with this. The US embargo and refusal to at least sit down and talk things over is helping no one, least of all the average Cuban. Cuba is neither as good nor as bad as some on opposite sides of the political spectrum would have us believe. It's a country in transition, doing better every day at a very slow pace but living daily with the fear of what the next leader will do. Will they continue Raul's slow reforms or will they reverse all the minor progress achieved in recent years?

    This is a very good article on what's really going on in Cuba today, long read but worth it if anyone wants an unbiased picture:

    Cuba: The second revolution? - Americas - World - The Independent

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