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    Re: Showdown over Bush tax cuts Wednesday

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    Re: Showdown over Bush tax cuts Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    yeah it was justify that but the chances of that happening are zero to none-at least in our lifetime.
    So you are inherently against democratic representation when it disagrees with you? You believe we should overthrow the government when they disagree with you? So infact you are undemocratic if it goes against your views? So authoritarian?


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    Re: Showdown over Bush tax cuts Wednesday

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    So you are inherently against democratic representation when it disagrees with you? You believe we should overthrow the government when they disagree with you? So infact you are undemocratic if it goes against your views? So authoritarian?
    socialism is anti constitutional republic.

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    Re: Showdown over Bush tax cuts Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    So in your humble opinion, if someone is a "moon bat socialist" and is democratically elected and some how the vast majority of the US government is democratically elected and are "moon bat socialists" (dont even know what that means) then we should overthrow them via armed rebellion?
    Tell me... How is that not "undemocratic"?
    At what point is no longer submitting to the usurpations of liberty by our government enough for us to stand up and remove them from power, by force if required?
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    Re: Showdown over Bush tax cuts Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    So you are inherently against democratic representation when it disagrees with you? You believe we should overthrow the government when they disagree with you? So infact you are undemocratic if it goes against your views? So authoritarian?
    The framers thought that rebellion needed to happen from time to time to keep the government from becoming too oppressive of the rights of the people...


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    Where did it ever exist, except in the single instance of Massachusetts? And can history produce an instance of rebellion so honourably conducted? I say nothing of it's motives. They were founded in ignorance, not wickedness. God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. We have had 13. states independent 11. years. There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a century & a half for each state. What country before ever existed a century & half without a rebellion? & what country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms
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    Re: Showdown over Bush tax cuts Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    So in your humble opinion, if someone is a "moon bat socialist" and is democratically elected and some how the vast majority of the US government is democratically elected and are "moon bat socialists" (dont even know what that means) then we should overthrow them via armed rebellion?
    Tell me... How is that not "undemocratic"?
    That is pretty much what happened in Chile in 1973.

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    Re: Showdown over Bush tax cuts Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    So in your humble opinion, if someone is a "moon bat socialist" and is democratically elected and some how the vast majority of the US government is democratically elected and are "moon bat socialists" (dont even know what that means) then we should overthrow them via armed rebellion?
    Tell me... How is that not "undemocratic"?
    Government is to be formed in the grand air of liberty. You better believe I would support killing them all.

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    Re: Showdown over Bush tax cuts Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Schutzengel View Post
    At what point is no longer submitting to the usurpations of liberty by our government enough for us to stand up and remove them from power, by force if required?
    only after one has gained perspective.... The best political movements are led by those grounded in reality.
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    Re: Showdown over Bush tax cuts Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
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    Wrong, wrong and more wrong.... not only that, you incorrect, sir. The Bush tax cuts led to a 20% cut in income tax revenues and a income tax revenues and a 10% reduction in the income tax receipts to GDP ratio.

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    There really should be a rule that every statement made on this board be supported. Arguing with the ill-informed is a bit like having a fist fight with a psycho.... its not a fair fight for unfair reasons.
    oops i foprgot you ignored a massive gdp drop due to clintons dot com bubble bursting,and heavily increased revenue fro the dot com bubble building,but hey you wont include they or aknowledge it,cuz it hurts your cause unless its for claiming taxes raise revenue.

    just the fact your own source shows revenue dropping before bush tax cuts were encated and rising after they were throws your entire argument out the window.TRY AGAIN>


    http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfa....cfm?Docid=205

    as this source shows revenue as a percentage of gdp fluctuates with gdp and not rates,or else we would have lost revenue going from 94% tax on the rich to 28% under reagan,but the exact opposite occurred,your math only works against weak minded who are too incompetent to study imperical data and averages across decades.
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    Re: Showdown over Bush tax cuts Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    So you are inherently against democratic representation when it disagrees with you? You believe we should overthrow the government when they disagree with you? So infact you are undemocratic if it goes against your views? So authoritarian?
    I thought you liberals wanted us to help overthrow "evil" dictators. Now you're saying you'd moan and whine if we overthrew Chavez?

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