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    Re: Showdown over Bush tax cuts Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    if you work all your life to have half of what you earned taken from your family that is being treated badly
    When we came here from Europe, we did so in part to get away from the "system" that kept the rich, rich and the poor, poor. It is ingrained in our heritage to abhor old money. Working all your life to create a dynasty for your heirs is not in the best interests of the country and that is the reason it is discouraged by inheritance taxes. They are not death taxes because your living heirs are the ones who pay them and no they have never paid a dime of tax on the money before they received it . The dead can't pay taxes, but the living certainly can on new income. Like I told you before, spend it or lose it. It helps us grow. Live a little Turtle, try spending 25% of your income this year. You might like it.
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    Re: Showdown over Bush tax cuts Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Lots of very very rich people disagree. Winston Churchill disagreed and he was no raving liberal or socialist. Andrew Carnegie disagreed. Lady Astor disagreed. Warren Buffet disagrees. Bill Gates disagrees.
    lots of very rich people are statists and want the government to have more power.

    warren buffet is a well known dem supporter and the death tax insulates the uber wealthy by making the mere wealthy far less likely to get to the top

    remind me on what Buffett has done to avoid the death taxes he is such a big fan of


    I believe in free choice-if you think the death tax is great and you are rich-go ahead and give the government everything

    stop trying to kiss the dem asses by demanding other people share your love of a wasteful government

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    Re: Showdown over Bush tax cuts Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    When we came here from Europe, we did so in part to get away from the "system" that kept the rich, rich and the poor, poor. It is ingrained in our heritage to abhor old money. Working all your life to create a dynasty for your heirs is not in the best interests of the country and that is the reason it is discouraged by inheritance taxes. They are not death taxes because your living heirs are the ones who pay them and no they have never paid a dime of tax on the money before they received it . The dead can't pay taxes, but the living certainly can on new income. Like I told you before, spend it or lose it. It helps us grow. Live a little Turtle, try spending 25% of your income this year. You might like it.
    LOL-such oozing excrement. people came here because they were tired of too much government and we fought a war over taxes.

    I pay 25% of my income or more in taxes. I give a lot of it away

    i tire of people like you thinking you know what I should do with what I earn

    its not your money

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    Re: Showdown over Bush tax cuts Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    When we came here from Europe, we did so in part to get away from the "system" that kept the rich, rich and the poor, poor.

    America was at it's best when the Vanderbilts and Rockefellers were running the show.

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    Re: Showdown over Bush tax cuts Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    LOL-such oozing excrement. people came here because they were tired of too much government and we fought a war over taxes.
    Uhmm you know the Boston Tea Party was about a tax cut the British wanted.

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    Re: Showdown over Bush tax cuts Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    America was at it's best when the Vanderbilts and Rockefellers were running the show.
    Are you being sarcastic? I really really hope you are
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    Re: Showdown over Bush tax cuts Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    they call state estate taxes death taxdes
    Source please...

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    If I transfer large quantities of wealth long before I die that is covered by GIFT TAXES
    Yep, exactly like I said. Read posts before you hit reply.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    your party wants the death tax to take 55% of every dollar over 1 million
    Yep, as do I.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    why should only the rich be hit with this tax? when they already pay so much more federal taxes than others
    Actually it's the opposite. The super rich- folks passing on $5 million estates and whatnot- pay much lower taxes than working people do. As you know and as I constantly prove to you over and over and as you continue to pretend you didn't know just to irritate me.
    Total tax rates- People living in poverty: 16.2%. The median American: 27%. Working people who make over $140k/year: 31%. The top 1%: 30%. Super rich investors: around 15%. Help the democrats retake the house.

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    Re: Showdown over Bush tax cuts Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Did the House vote on this or are you talking about the Senate vote? Remember taxation/budget crap must start in the House thus the Senate vote won't pass Constitutional muster...
    Right the GOP controlled House is opposed to continuing the middle class tax cuts, thanks for the reminder.
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    Re: Showdown over Bush tax cuts Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    pandering to the masses?

    is this what we now call "representing the interests of the majority"?

    Yeah those pandering Dems proposing the means to a better economy and a stronger middle class, shameful I tells ya, shameful!
    I'm sure that the far right would prefer to think that the working class should be more than happy to keep getting kicked in the head as they have under the last 30 years of trickle down economics and financial deregulation.
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    Re: Showdown over Bush tax cuts Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    LOL-such oozing excrement. people came here because they were tired of too much government and we fought a war over taxes.

    I pay 25% of my income or more in taxes. I give a lot of it away

    i tire of people like you thinking you know what I should do with what I earn

    its not your money
    I meant 25% of your after tax income, but you are right, if saving is your "thing" be my guest...but
    Why do the words "You can't take it with ya" keep popping into my head?
    No one is taking your money anyway, you have an agreement with the Govt. as a citizen. putting a lien on some of your income and your estate when the time comes. So it's not technically all your money with that lien on it

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