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    Re: DISCLOSE Act fails again in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    ... while defending Romney's refusal to disclose more than two tax returns....
    Yet another conflation of terms from you. Obama promised government transparency (a promise he immediately broke).

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    Re: DISCLOSE Act fails again in Senate

    Here's a bit more about the problem the DISCLOSE Act was supposed to address

    Current Campaign Finance Law Allows Secret Foreign Influence, GOP Senator Brushes Off Concerns

    A Chinese, Russian, or Venezuelan corporation can legally influence American elections in secret, simply by setting up a corporation here, then funding a 501(c) group with some innocuous name to run attack ads. The ads could help elect lawmakers who support trade or foreign policy issues favorable to these countries, and the whole process would be perfectly legal and undisclosed under our current campaign finance system.

    Yesterday, every single Republican Senator, even several lawmakers who have called for complete campaign transparency in the past, voted to filibuster the DISCLOSE Act, legislation that would force all campaign advocacy groups to disclose equally. The legislation would not limit communications, but simply force 501(c) groups to disclose the same way in which PACs and Super PACs are required. Currently, 501(c) groups — like “American Action Network” — face zero public disclosure, yet are spending hundreds of millions to influence elections this year.
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    Re: DISCLOSE Act fails again in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Here's a bit more about the problem the DISCLOSE Act was supposed to address
    I see Blunt's point; the wording of the bill is way too ambiguous. If they actually wanted to pass such a bill, they would spend time tweaking the wording to ensure it was appropriate. Instead, they're pushing the bill multiple times while left-wing organizations continue to spout on about how they're not supporting it.
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    Re: DISCLOSE Act fails again in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Yea! **** transparency! We dont wanna show you who is buying your elections!?
    What is funny, is anyone that suggests this is something one side or the other owns. Since both sides have been pushing away legislation (or not putting forth legislation to change the status quo) to make things more transparent.

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    What can you say? It's disgusting. Republicans should be ashamed of themselves.
    See, here's an example of one of those funnies.
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    Re: DISCLOSE Act fails again in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    What is funny, is anyone that suggests this is something one side or the other owns. Since both sides have been pushing away legislation (or not putting forth legislation to change the status quo) to make things more transparent.
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    Its just pathetic that this is a party lines issue. Transparency if fundamental to a functioning democracy.


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    Re: DISCLOSE Act fails again in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Its just pathetic that this is a party lines issue. Transparency if fundamental to a functioning democracy.
    Agreed. It's unfortunate the two sides have done such a good job keeping people fighting so they don't see that it's both sides that stand against any real transparency.
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    Re: DISCLOSE Act fails again in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Agreed. It's unfortunate the two sides have done such a good job keeping people fighting so they don't see that it's both sides that stand against any real transparency.
    I mean almost all Democrats voted for this act, and i believe literally all Republicans voted against.


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    Re: DISCLOSE Act fails again in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I mean almost all Democrats voted for this act, and i believe literally all Republicans voted against.
    This one piece of legislation. Yeah, that doesn't change the reality neither side has really worked for transparency.
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    Re: DISCLOSE Act fails again in Senate

    Many things are more transparent now than ever. Perhaps our woes lie somewhere besides the commercials from a third party calling Obamacare problematic.
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    Re: DISCLOSE Act fails again in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    This one piece of legislation. Yeah, that doesn't change the reality neither side has really worked for transparency.
    These kind of legislation is rarely brought up. But with the cretion of Super PACS now around this kind of legislation is needed more than ever.


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