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‘Red Scare History Burst Through My Door’

If a self-professed conservative does something for self-advantage that betrays basic conservative principles he/she believes are basic conservative principles - then they are not a true conservative. You're correct, it is a political philosophy AND if you don't follow that philosophy, you're not that thing.
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So are they no longer allowed to identify themselves as a true conservative/liberal? Does that make all politicians who compromise non-conservatives/liberals then?

We can start with you thinking this event even closely resembles the Red Scare or that this is the state overreaching.
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I never said that, never thought it either.

You seem hell bent on this strawman. I'm not playing. The fact is - there was a crime here and the search was warranted.
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The question I'm asking is slightly off-topic and I'm not trying to prove/disprove anything, I just want to know what your position would be in that situation.
 
Jerry said:
It wasn't supposed to. The cops don't need me to 'solidify a point' on some discussion forum, they need a search warrant, and they had one, so neener-neener :2wave:

Don't like it? Don't associate with these criminal occupiers. Simple as that.
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You're trying to make an argument, your job as the accuser is to provide proof and solidify your positioning, you have not done that. If you weren't trying to make a point/reinforce it, you wouldn't be trying to prove anything in the first place, but you are.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Free speech zones, now just breaking down your door because the state doesn't like the flyers you posses. Whats next?
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They were covering all of that when they invented "Homeland Security": "motherland", "fatherland" . . .
 
Meathead said:
The point is we're trying to stay away from a police state. The self-righteous like the OWS crowd and collectivists and socialist are the biggest threat to our freedoms.
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It's a shame that the OWS crowd is forcing us to become a police state. They're as bad as the hippies that we had to teach a lesson at Kent State.
 
Oh, yes, hippies were always all in favor of a police state.

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If I were dictator, I'd do what forum moderators do, I'd ban political opponents.

All this "free speech" stuff is just a bunch of B.S. and we all know it.
 
Matt Foley said:
If I were dictator, I'd do what forum moderators do, I'd ban political opponents.

All this "free speech" stuff is just a bunch of B.S. and we all know it.
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No, you have the right to spout whatever nonsense you want.

And the rest of us have a right to laugh and say, "What? How absurd!"

which is what most of us do.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
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Free speech? Democracy? I think not. This cannot be possibly ok. Are we turning into more and more of a police state?

Thoughts?
Comments?
Response?
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I have to add some 300 or so posts later; that the "anarchists" are the ones wearing the black hoodies who have the back packs that contain the hammers and spray paint and incindiaries that muck up protests. The regular protestors; and the union cops are trying to flush the jerks out of the usual game.

So, never mind the anarchists. They're tories . . .
 
Matt Foley said:
If I were dictator, I'd do what forum moderators do, I'd ban political opponents.

All this "free speech" stuff is just a bunch of B.S. and we all know it.
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Give up Matt mars will never rule Earth
 
Meathead said:
The point is we're trying to stay away from a police state. The self-righteous like the OWS crowd and collectivists and socialist are the biggest threat to our freedoms.
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So you're a libertarian who thinks collectivists are a threat to your freedoms? Please tell me about how you oppose giving excess control to the private sector. willy_wonka.jpg
 
waas said:
So you're a libertarian who thinks collectivists are a threat to your freedoms? Please tell me about how you oppose giving excess control to the private sector. View attachment 67133003
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It is a matter of understanding history. The earliest example of the overly self-righteous taking control was Robespierre and the French Revolution, then we had a lot of fun guys like Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and a series of other "collectivists" who bestowed their people with their version of freedom and wealth. Sorry Shorty, I'm not buying that it's going to be different this time around, but then they say there are suckers born every minute,
 
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