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    Re: ‘Red Scare History Burst Through My Door’

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    The point is we're trying to stay away from a police state. The self-righteous like the OWS crowd and collectivists and socialist are the biggest threat to our freedoms.

    Seriously? Patriot Act? Kill Lists? And protesters are a "threat to our freedom"?
    Cool typical talking point.


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    Re: ‘Red Scare History Burst Through My Door’

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post

    Seriously? Patriot Act? Kill Lists? And protesters are a "threat to our freedom"?
    Cool typical talking point.
    Read 20th century history. I would direct you to a self-righteous cadre extolling the wonders of socialism for the working man. If it's too much of a chore, the first couple of chapters of "Animal Farm" is a lot easier. If you still don't get it, read the rest of the book.

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    Re: ‘Red Scare History Burst Through My Door’

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    Read 20th century history. I would direct you to a self-righteous cadre extolling the wonders of socialism for the working man. If it's too much of a chore, the first couple of chapters of "Animal Farm" is a lot easier. If you still don't get it, read the rest of the book.

    Book is about Stalinism.
    Book was written by a socialist himself, who was anti stalinist.


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    Re: ‘Red Scare History Burst Through My Door’

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post

    Book is about Stalinism.
    Book was written by a socialist himself, who was anti stalinist.
    The message is none-the-less clear. Making the same mistake because some say that this is the "new improved socialism" is a fool's errand. Sure, they too were for the working class, for democracy and for socialism.

    Countries as illiterate and uninformed as those which adopted your workers paradise last century is where your focus should be. The remaining bastions of illiteracy and poverty in Africa and South America are perhaps the last of a shrinking pool of areas to infect, but even there it's probably too late.

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    Re: ‘Red Scare History Burst Through My Door’

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    The message is none-the-less clear. Making the same mistake because some say that this is the "new improved socialism" is a fool's errand. Sure, they too were for the working class, for democracy and for socialism.

    Countries as illiterate and uninformed as those which adopted your workers paradise last century is where your focus should be. The remaining bastions of illiteracy and poverty in Africa and South America are perhaps the last of a shrinking pool of areas to infect, but even there it's probably too late.
    Uhhhhh Democratic socialism is not the "new and improved" its been around for quite a while, actually a very long time.....


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    Re: ‘Red Scare History Burst Through My Door’

    Quote Originally Posted by Das Sozialist View Post
    You can have rights but still not like your government, you may dislike Barack Obama, but you still have your rights.
    Has nothing to do with my response. Again, by YOUR definition, an anarchist who asserts they have rights has proven by that assertion they are no anarchist. At least follow along with your own philosophy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Das Sozialist View Post
    That's you're opinion. If you were harassed and beaten, Would you want your own countrymen to stand by and say 'He's a dumbass, why should we care?'.
    If I were being a dumbass like this crew, yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Das Sozialist View Post
    Would you have a problem if Occupy X-ers were being harassed and beaten, even if they were not committing a crime?
    Yes and no. I hate the morons who trashed downtown Portland and would take some small and private comfort in seeing them get their asses kicked. If I were asked to authorize such a thing however, the answer would be no. That doesn't apply here. There was a warrant, so there was the presumption a crime has been committed.

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    Re: ‘Red Scare History Burst Through My Door’

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Uhhhhh Democratic socialism is not the "new and improved" its been around for quite a while, actually a very long time.....
    We've seen it. The entire East Block were "democratic" and socialist. GDR, USSR, DPRK (Democratic People Republic of Korea) and so on. But sure, it'll be different this time around.

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    Re: ‘Red Scare History Burst Through My Door’

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    We've seen it. The entire East Block were "democratic" and socialist. GDR, USSR, DPRK (Democratic People Republic of Korea) and so on. But sure, it'll be different this time around.

    Logic is not your thing.
    Ever heard of a misnomer?


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    Re: ‘Red Scare History Burst Through My Door’

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post

    Logic is not your thing.
    Ever heard of a misnomer?
    I have, and I furthermore have enough of a grasp of world history to understand that when a cadre of self-righteous mental midgets masquerading as intellectual elites sets out to change the world, we get totalitarian states like those fore-mentioned.

    But of course, it'll be different this time around.

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    Re: ‘Red Scare History Burst Through My Door’

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    I have, and I furthermore have enough of a grasp of world history to understand that when a cadre of self-righteous mental midgets masquerading as intellectual elites sets out to change the world, we get totalitarian states like those fore-mentioned.

    But of course, it'll be different this time around.

    Yes Latin Americas pink tide is very "authoritarian"
    Ghandi was a real authoritarian
    MLK was a real authoritarian
    Tony Benn is real authoritarian
    Thomas Paine was a real authoritarian


    So you actually wanna have a real discussion or are we just gonna keep on going back to really ****ty talking points of no value?


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