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    Southern governors secede from Medicaid

    House Republicans are lining up to repeal the
    Affordable Care Act
    on Wednesday, but GOP governors in the South have a real plan to gut the law.
    Govs. Rick Perry in Texas and Rick Scott in Florida have both said they won’t expand Medicaid to more of the working poor in their states — rejecting a central part of the law designed to cover 15 million more Americans.

    The governors can do it because the Supreme Court ruled last month that states can opt out of the expansion without paying a penalty.

    Unlike the symbolic votes in the House this week, the governors’ tough talk has real-world consequences: Texas and Florida are among five hell-no states, meaning 3 million of the potential Medicaid beneficiaries — or about 1 in 5 nationwide — won’t get coverage through President Barack Obama’s health care law, according to a POLITICO analysis of data compiled by the Urban Institute. The governors of Mississippi, Louisiana and South Carolina also have said Washington can keep its Medicaid money and the new requirements that come with it.

    “The bottom line here is that Medicaid is a failed program,” Perry said in a Monday appearance on Fox News. “To expand this program is not unlike adding a thousand people to the Titanic.”


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    Yea these guys are really for the "ordinary guy" really extending their helping hand...

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    Re: Southern governors secede from Medicaid

    'Bout time....

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    longlive the medical confederaciah
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    Re: Southern governors secede from Medicaid

    Its only going to hurt their hospitals and other medical care providers. If you are uninsured and show up at a hospital with something like cancer, that hospital will typically have a department whose sole responsibility is to see if you qualify for medicaid, and if so, to get you enrolled. The reason being of course is that they want to be reimbursed for the heath care they provide you. Obamacare, like Romneycare, eliminates the provisions of medicaid that reimbursed providers for uninsured patients. Instead, both programs extended the eligibility for medicaid to include more of the working poor. By refusing to accept the medicaid expansion - that is paid for by the federal government, those states that do so will only hurt their own hospitals.
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    nothing to see here until they start playing This song



    if this starts playing everywhere it might be bad news bears!!!!!!!
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    Re: Southern governors secede from Medicaid

    Empty threat, I can guarantee it.
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    Re: Southern governors secede from Medicaid

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Its only going to hurt their hospitals and other medical care providers. If you are uninsured and show up at a hospital with something like cancer, that hospital will typically have a department whose sole responsibility is to see if you qualify for medicaid, and if so, to get you enrolled. The reason being of course is that they want to be reimbursed for the heath care they provide you. Obamacare, like Romneycare, eliminates the provisions of medicaid that reimbursed providers for uninsured patients. Instead, both programs extended the eligibility for medicaid to include more of the working poor. By refusing to accept the medicaid expansion - that is paid for by the federal government, those states that do so will only hurt their own hospitals.
    It goes further than that. By not expanding Medicaid, all these Southern states are doing is pushing more poor voters towards Obama regardless of their political lean. If these Republican governors aren't offering an alternative or doing things to improve their state's economy where else are these people to turn to meet their health care needs? Ultimately, all turning down the Medicaid expansion will do is push more people exactly where they don't want them to go - towards the one political party that IS willing to help them meet their health care needs if not now then in the immediate future.

    Of course, this feeds right into the "all poor people want are handouts" argument, but notice that I did include the state's role in improving their economy (re: "job creation") to lift the burdon of entitlement expectations. Republicans are only shooting themselves in the foot by not accepting the Medicaid expansion, and they'll only have themselves to blame for it.
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    Re: Southern governors secede from Medicaid

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Its only going to hurt their hospitals and other medical care providers. If you are uninsured and show up at a hospital with something like cancer, that hospital will typically have a department whose sole responsibility is to see if you qualify for medicaid, and if so, to get you enrolled. The reason being of course is that they want to be reimbursed for the heath care they provide you. Obamacare, like Romneycare, eliminates the provisions of medicaid that reimbursed providers for uninsured patients. Instead, both programs extended the eligibility for medicaid to include more of the working poor. By refusing to accept the medicaid expansion - that is paid for by the federal government, those states that do so will only hurt their own hospitals.
    Accepting the expanded provisions of the program with add future liabilities to the state, as the feds gradually stop paying the full cost of the program.
    Besides the fact that adding more people to Medicaid, may not be the best idea when the program has issues with doctors dropping acceptance, because it doesn't pay enough.
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    Re: Southern governors secede from Medicaid

    The only way the states will see an increase in state spending in these programs is if they continue to keep wages depressed in their states so there is a big working poor category. Right now states work against the economic improvement of many of it's citizens by using 'low wage state' come-ons fighting other states for the same biscuit. The shameless whoring to draw jobs away from other states means first the wages have to be kept low and the middle class must make up the revenue loss because of all the giveaways to incoming business. But overall it doesn't help the country. (iffy if it even helps the state)

    So I see the expansion of Medicaid as the carrot to end the states ill-thought though race to stay at the bottom when it comes to the standard of living many of it's lower income workers have. This might help encourage state governments to float all boats, not just the ones who eat 500 dollar rubber chicken...

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    Re: Southern governors secede from Medicaid

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    'Bout time....
    Speak for your own state.

    I can't speak for Texas, but Florida could use that coverage.

    The cities may be doing okay. But the rural areas could use that coverage of the poor.

    During the recession, one of the areas that kept Florida's economy going was agriculture. But farm workers tend to be poor, especially since it's just seasonal work. And workers have to compete for low wages, which farm owners need because of the volatility of fuel prices for the diesel that tractors and equipment run on.

    Also these are jobs that are necessary - look at the losses farms in Alabama are suffering because they can't get farm workers, which are generally immigrants.

    And because farm work tends to be physical, they need health coverage more than office workers who get diabetes because the get fat eating at their desk and sitting on their ass all day.

    So this is actually really really bad for Florida.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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