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    Re: Southern governors secede from Medicaid

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    The problem is, right now, this is a bit of reality that the left wants to erase from the discussion. They want everyone to believe that the majority want this new healthcare crap.

    Of course, the right ignores polls as well.

    But why would any politician ever actually care what the people want or think? They got theirs.
    They keep complaining that O refuses to actually campaign in favor of O-care. I wonder what his focus groups are telling him.
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    Re: Southern governors secede from Medicaid

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    You mean to say that forcing them to buy the health coverage that they can't afford is going to improve their situation? I think making this a federal issue was a dumb idea in the first place, states and municipalities could come up with far better systems for themselves.
    hey, I just read in another thread that justabubba wants to spend billions on bullet trains to nowhere, so why not??
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    Re: Southern governors secede from Medicaid

    Quote Originally Posted by wbcoleman View Post
    hey, I just read in another thread that justabubba wants to spend billions on bullet trains to nowhere, so why not??
    Oh no i'm with him on that one but someone will have to point me in the direction of the appropriate thread...

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    Re: Southern governors secede from Medicaid

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    You mean to say that forcing them to buy the health coverage that they can't afford is going to improve their situation? I think making this a federal issue was a dumb idea in the first place, states and municipalities could come up with far better systems for themselves.
    there is no one who will be unable to afford to buy healthcare coverage
    and for those with no income, there will be coverage
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    Re: Southern governors secede from Medicaid

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Fred loses his job and goes on state aid (in Texas). Suddenly he gets sick, but since he doesn't have a job, he doesn't have health insurance. He goes to the state, but they tell him that they're not accepting any new Medicaid patients. Fred and his wife have to leave Texas and move to Arkansas where he CAN get Medicaid. Not only doesn't Texas end up paying for the Medicaid bill, but once Fred and his wife leave Texas they don't pay for his welfare either.
    Sick Fred with no job moves?
    How does Sick Fred pay for his moving expenses?
    How does Sick Fred cover his deposit on his new place to live?

    Sick Fred stays in place w/o the wherewithal to leave his current situation.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Southern governors secede from Medicaid

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Sick Fred with no job moves?
    How does Sick Fred pay for his moving expenses?
    How does Sick Fred cover his deposit on his new place to live?

    Sick Fred stays in place w/o the wherewithal to leave his current situation.
    Sick Fred isn't moving into a new apartment. He's moving into a motel or something of that sort. He doesn't have much to move. He's had to sell/pawn most of it to pay their expenses for the six months he's already been out of work. However, he knows that if he can get to Arkansas and establish some form of residence, that he can likely get Medicaid coverage for both him and his wife; whereas if they stay in Texas all they get is the Emergency Room "Patch em up and kick em out" system, which may not work for his or his wife's ailments.

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    Re: Southern governors secede from Medicaid

    Quote Originally Posted by wbcoleman View Post
    The "freebies", is that what you mean?
    No.

    Extended coverage of college students on their parents' plan.

    No more denied coverage due to preecisting conditions.

    Only 20% of premium payments going to administrative costs.

    Closing of the donut hole for seniors.

    Just to name a few.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Southern governors secede from Medicaid

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    He's moving into a motel or something of that sort. ... However, he knows that if he can get to Arkansas and establish some form of residence...
    I don't think we give residency to people in motels. I could be wrong though.
    Ime, motels are much more expensive than houses and apartments.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    that he can likely get Medicaid coverage for both him and his wife; whereas if they stay in Texas all they get is the Emergency Room "Patch em up and kick em out" system, which may not work for his or his wife's ailments.
    His motivation is assumed. But I don't think he has the wherewithal despite his motivation.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Southern governors secede from Medicaid

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Sick Fred isn't moving into a new apartment. He's moving into a motel or something of that sort. He doesn't have much to move. He's had to sell/pawn most of it to pay their expenses for the six months he's already been out of work. However, he knows that if he can get to Arkansas and establish some form of residence, that he can likely get Medicaid coverage for both him and his wife; whereas if they stay in Texas all they get is the Emergency Room "Patch em up and kick em out" system, which may not work for his or his wife's ailments.
    You are assuming that Sick Fred actually does get a job that he can get to earn money to pay for a motel.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Southern governors secede from Medicaid

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    No.

    Extended coverage of college students on their parents' plan.

    No more denied coverage due to preecisting conditions.

    Only 20% of premium payments going to administrative costs.

    Closing of the donut hole for seniors.

    Just to name a few.
    Exactly! You are quoting the "freebies". How many people favor the parts that "pay" for the goodies? That is precisely why the package is so unpopular.
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