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    Re: Southern governors secede from Medicaid

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    The threat of GOP governors to not expand Medicaid is not at all credible. In terms of both policy and politics, their position is untenable. Let's start with the policy: The states are simply getting too good a deal to turn down. The federal government is paying 100% of the cost of the expansion for the first few years, and 90% thereafter. Furthermore, since conservative states like Texas currently have the stingiest Medicaid programs, they'd be getting the most federal money of all the states, to bring them up to compliance with the new expansion. In terms of the politics, all the money is on the side of the Medicaid expansion. Health care providers love it, because it means that they'll actually get paid for treating poor people.

    The GOP governors who are truly fanatical in their hatred of Obama might be able to hold out for a few years, but not much longer. This just isn't a deal that their states can afford to turn down. I wouldn't read too much into their threat anyway. It's only been a couple weeks since the SCOTUS ruling, so this is most likely just some butthurt Republicans blowing off steam, rather than a serious act of state policy for which they have weighed all the policy and political ramifications of their decision.
    Their hatred of Obama far outweighs any regard they might have for their own citizens. These are the guys who 150 years ago, were signing secession documents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Assuming they actually go through with it, it should be a great boon for them....

    These people will end up getting cared for.... IN OTHER STATES. That means these people will likely be LEAVING Texas, Florida, etc.... on a permanent basis, which I'm sure will also likely reduce those state's burden for OTHER social welfare programs.
    Poor people can't afford to move.


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    Re: Southern governors secede from Medicaid

    best thing that can happen to the democratic party
    not only will these decisions stall economic progress in their states, forcing it elsewhere ... but it will motivate LOTS of voters to now seek to elect democrat governors who will implement expanded medicaid programs
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    Re: Southern governors secede from Medicaid

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Actually the country is split evenly, with about 10% mad because it doesn't go far enough. But keep swallowing that Fox Kool Aide!
    Rasmussen has been polling on this every 1-2 weeks since the scheme was enacted. Their results have been remarkably consistant over time and with other surveys:

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    Most voters still aren’t convinced: They want President Obama’s national health care law repealed as they have said consistently since the measure was passed by Congress over two years ago.

    The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 53% of Likely U.S. Voters at least somewhat favor the repeal of the health care law, while 41% are opposed. These findings include 43% who Strongly Favor repeal and 31% who Strongly Oppose it. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

    The survey of 1,000 Likely Voters was conducted on July 7-8, 2012 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC.
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    Re: Southern governors secede from Medicaid

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Their hatred of Obama far outweighs any regard they might have for their own citizens. These are the guys who 150 years ago, were signing secession documents.
    Of course, it's racism! As always.



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    (Reuters) - Nebraska Governor Dave Heineman said on Wednesday the state cannot afford the expansion of the Medicaid program under President Obama's healthcare law, but stopped short of saying whether the Midwestern state would join six others rejecting the expansion.

    Heineman, a Republican, said in a letter to senators Wednesday that the expansion would force Nebraska to cut funding for education.
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    Re: Southern governors secede from Medicaid

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    best thing that can happen to the democratic party
    not only will these decisions stall economic progress in their states, forcing it elsewhere ... but it will motivate LOTS of voters to now seek to elect democrat governors who will implement expanded medicaid programs
    but... but... but... OBAMACARE IS UNPOPULAR!!!
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    Re: Southern governors secede from Medicaid

    Quote Originally Posted by wbcoleman View Post
    but... but... but... OBAMACARE IS UNPOPULAR!!!
    not to those who have no healthcare coverage
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    Re: Southern governors secede from Medicaid

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    not to those who have no healthcare coverage
    Really? You think the healthy young people who want to freeload are clamoring for Obamacare??
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    Re: Southern governors secede from Medicaid

    Quote Originally Posted by wbcoleman View Post
    Rasmussen has been polling on this every 1-2 weeks since the scheme was enacted. Their results have been remarkably consistant over time and with other surveys:

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    The problem is, right now, this is a bit of reality that the left wants to erase from the discussion. They want everyone to believe that the majority want this new healthcare crap.

    Of course, the right ignores polls as well.

    But why would any politician ever actually care what the people want or think? They got theirs.
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    Re: Southern governors secede from Medicaid

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    not to those who have no healthcare coverage
    You mean to say that forcing them to buy the health coverage that they can't afford is going to improve their situation? I think making this a federal issue was a dumb idea in the first place, states and municipalities could come up with far better systems for themselves.

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