TSA: "F#$%ing deafie."

TSA Agents at Louisville Airport Steal Deaf Man's Candy, Call Him "****ing Deafie"

Yet another reported instance of abuse at the hands of the TSA. It is a wonder so many Americans put up with this agency...

No substantiating reports, the blogger/poster has shut his account down, thus not answering follow-up questions, no names given. Just a blogger rant put out by a front group for very opinionated stance on the Gubmint. I have been flying at least once a month since 1996 and have NEVER witnessed nor had anything close to what is being thrown out there.

I'm not saying there are not problems, just the usual attack rant does have witnesses, interviews with the person who felt mistreated, statements from TSA...

Given the typical rant from the source cited I'd have to see something other that this. Some just have a hard-on for certain Gubmint agencies, it is plain to see the TNAR does and it's website sure shows it. I'd have to say that if the 'Reason' or TNAR said the sky was blue I'd have to look up just to be sure...

notquiteright said:

Just a blogger rant put out by a front group for very opinionated stance on the Gubmint.... Given the typical rant from the source cited I'd have to see something other that this.

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I guess I didn't realize that the National Association for the Deaf was a "front group". This story has been picked up by multiple organizations. Obviously Reason has its own biased slant, as does every news organization, but there are plenty of other organizations which have picked up this story as well (such as Deaf Times). Could the story be fabricated? Certainly. Although I cannot say why you choose to do so, it is obvious that you are willing to believe an agency with an authenticated history of abuse over a person who potentially has been the recipient of such abuse.

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I have been flying at least once a month since 1996 and have NEVER witnessed nor had anything close to what is being thrown out there.

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So if it has never happened to you personally it must not exist.

Employee broke multiple rules and regulations of the job. If employee was properly reported or discovered having broken those multiple rules and regulations of the job, the employee likely was reprimanded or fired if possible (which may not be possible due to issues that are no inherent to the TSA but rather that they're simply beholden to). Why is this some giant to do anymore than if some cashier at Walmart did something offensive to someone. Would Walmart as a whole be attacked, slammed, and degraded because one of their thousands of employees did something against policy and stupid to a customer?

Zyphlin said:

Why is this some giant to do anymore than if some cashier at Walmart did something offensive to someone. Would Walmart as a whole be attacked, slammed, and degraded because one of their thousands of employees did something against policy and stupid to a customer?

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This is a reasonable question and the answer comes down to incentives. People who work at Wal-Mart exist solely to provide a service to customers who voluntarily peruse these stores. As such, if these employees do not provide a net positive experience for customers they will lose their jobs, and thus their means to attain ends.

Government bureaucracies such as the TSA, on the other hand, do not need to supply an economical, efficient, or even desirable service. This, coupled with the ability to dictate demands to citizens, encourages the sort of employee who enjoys positions of power and little responsibility. Therefore, it is not simply because "one of their thousands of employees" has abused the position given, but that it is a systemic issue prevalent throughout every government bureaucracy.

TNAR said:

It is a wonder so many Americans put up with this agency...

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I'm not going to condone the actions, but in terms of the Agency as a whole, the TSA is a necesary and very important organization for the safety and security of this nation. I'm not going to say that it doesn't need to be cleaned up and refocused, but to suggest that it can be done without is utterly ridiculous.

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The National Association for the Deaf wouldn't be the first time a group jumped without knowing all the facts as those who detract from the Civil Rights groups that jumped into the Zimmermann case are quick to point out. From what I can find online only bias interweb hack sites are running with this 'story'.

The person who this supposedly happened to has clammed up and refused to address the accusations he has made. He has taken down his blog site. Seems odd to say the least.

Yes I would put my YEARS of going through TSA checkpoints across the nation to include Louisville when my AA flight was diverted for nav issues up against this story. I routinely carry a day's worth of food in my carry one ruck as well as a blanket and change of clothes as I have been stranded and had to fend for myself on more occasions than I liked. 16 years at least once a month and I do observe what happens around me, NOTHING even close to this has EVER been observed. Sometimes my ruck gets screened twice because of the canned goods, sometime hand searched- NEVER have they taken a food item from my ruck.

I don't love TSA and have had my problems with some. The TSA has done dumb things such as pat down toddlers, Medal of Honor holders, older folks with replacement hips... most on camera phones and the 'victim' or the parents quite willing to speak to the mainstream media about it. But NEVER have I seen a TSA person take candy from a baby/blind guy/ deaf dude/ or deride a passenger. (Even the passengers who act like total asses as your TNAR website shows when one of your heroes acts the fool to a former Marine TSA official.

So we are left with a guy who now is refusing to speak to anyone about the accusation, no witnesses, no camera phone video, no one but the rant bloggers running this, the TNAR's own incident shows how professional the TSA is compared to how ignorant 'patriots' can act, and my approx 400 trips through TSA security over the years...

Yeah I am going to through the BS flag...

notquiteright said:

The person who this supposedly happened to has clammed up and refused to address the accusations he has made. He has taken down his blog site. Seems odd to say the least.

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His claim is that he fears repercussions, but it is certainly plausible that his story is fabricated. The burden of proof is on the accuser.

notquiteright said:

Yes I would put my YEARS of going through TSA checkpoints across the nation to include Louisville when my AA flight was diverted for nav issues up against this story. ... 16 years at least once a month and I do observe what happens around me, NOTHING even close to this has EVER been observed.

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There are multitudes of corroborated stories of abuse by the TSA. The fact that you have not experienced any abuse does not mean that none exists. It might be interesting if a person were to collect every instance of abuse by this agency in a single location. Perhaps it already exists.

Regardless, the mission of the TSA itself, without regard to actual or alleged abuses, is an affront to a so-called "free" society. The TSA does absolutely nothing to make air travelers any safer.

From what I think I know, the term Deafie is an affectionate one used by the deaf to describe their fellow deaf society members.

Nobody loves the TSA but this seems like a very unlikely tale and I suspect that somehow Obama will be blamed for it.

TNAR said:

There are multitudes of corroborated stories of abuse by the TSA. The fact that you have not experienced any abuse does not mean that none exists. It might be interesting if a person were to collect every instance of abuse by this agency in a single location. Perhaps it already exists.

Regardless, the mission of the TSA itself, without regard to actual or alleged abuses, is an affront to a so-called "free" society. The TSA does absolutely nothing to make air travelers any safer.

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It might also be interesting to compare that list of abuses to the list of items the TSA has stopped from getting onboard aircraft illegally.

As for the freedom of society..... sorry, but the moment you tell me I cannot bring my gun, knife, pepper spray, and other self-defense tools onto your property it becomes your DUTY to provide air-tight security for me, so far as I'm concerned. Now the TSA doesn't actually do that, but they COULD if there weren't the potential "civil rights" violations that would be inflicted to do so (which are somehow more important than MY right to self-defense).

Zyphlin said:

Would Walmart as a whole be attacked, slammed, and degraded because one of their thousands of employees did something against policy and stupid to a customer?

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If anyone wishing to buy products were forced to do so through WalMart, then yes.

Tigger said:

I'm not going to condone the actions, but in terms of the Agency as a whole, the TSA is a necesary and very important organization for the safety and security of this nation. I'm not going to say that it doesn't need to be cleaned up and refocused, but to suggest that it can be done without is utterly ridiculous.

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I actually agree with Tigger 100% on this one. I feel kind of dirty...