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Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

What change are you calling for based on your self imposed belief system built on a house of cards and lies?

why do you constantly misrepresent what people say when you don't like the message

the current tax system is based on taking from those based on an artificial ability to pay and distributing to those based on their voting numbers

I want taxes to be more based on what a person uses. that is a common paradigm in history but it runs counter to the interests of people like those who see the purposes of the tax code as to give congress more power
 
why do you constantly misrepresent what people say when you don't like the message

the current tax system is based on taking from those based on an artificial ability to pay and distributing to those based on their voting numbers

I want taxes to be more based on what a person uses. that is a common paradigm in history but it runs counter to the interests of people like those who see the purposes of the tax code as to give congress more power


Complete and total nonsense that could only be spewed by someone with zero knowledge of history
 
Go to the IRS. They have published actual data on returns and the different level of income. The bottom pays way less %age wise than the top.
Yeah they don't want to ever really know the facts
Lookit, everybody... the right has discovered progressive taxation! :2rofll:
 
Complete and total nonsense that could only be spewed by someone with zero knowledge of history

This may help explain his view of history:

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Complete and total nonsense that could only be spewed by someone with zero knowledge of history

so duties were not use taxes? a stamp is not a use tax? class III tax stamp on Title II weapons is not a use tax? a toll is not a use tax

its funny someone who brays about being socialist saying others have no knowledge of history
 
This may help explain his view of history:

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repeating the idiotic straw man nonsense again after getting your butt handed to you for your silly rants bout the Bush tax cuts?
 
Yes there would be if we ended laws that protect current markets and allow inovation to prosper. And I have to question if you see "skilled college educated people working at fast food restaurants", if they had needed skills intead of useless degrees, they would have jobs. [...]
Says who? You?
 
No, as an alternative to welfare, I support work farms and work camps where those who fall to far can work for their food and live in barracks. Wages are based upon skill and how easily you can be replaced as well as your contributions and time. Unskilled labor will always be plentiful and cheap, not to mention easily replaced in the near future with AI controlled robotics. If you choose to be poorly educated and not have a skill, well, I have not sympathy for you. Not only am I against a "living" wage for unskilled labor, I am against a minimum wage. Wages should be set by skill level and the abundance of people competing for employment at each skill level.
Excellent argument for the reinstatement of slavery. Well done! :clap:
 
Excellent argument for the reinstatement of slavery. Well done! :clap:
Except that what he described isnt slavery. Expecting someone to base their own survival upon their own labor is the opposite of slavery, actually.
 
repeating the idiotic straw man nonsense again after getting your butt handed to you for your silly rants bout the Bush tax cuts?

The graph was constructed based on your posted views.
 
Much of our defense spending is pay related and pensions. Would you call for a draft to be installed or pay cuts for those in the military.
Clearly, a draft is not needed. Fewer wars would be nice. Military pay obviously needs to be frozen, at a minimum. Impact upon the economy aside, about half of them need to be laid off, bases mothballed, etc.

Military personnel costs have nearly doubled since fiscal year 2001 and now consume one-third of the Pentagon’s base budget [...] by repeatedly passing pay raises above and beyond the Pentagon’s request, Congress has driven military pay out of line with the Pentagon’s own standards. Basic pay accounts for about half of military cash compensation—service members also receive tax-free allowances for housing and subsistence, a variety of other tax breaks, and an array of special and incentive pay. By 2006 the average service member earned $5,400 more in cash compensation than a comparably qualified civilian counterpart, and the average officer earned $6,000 more than a civilian with similar education and experience. This disparity has continued to grow in the past six years. What’s more, these numbers do not include the value of the generous health care benefits received by military personnel.

Whether the result of a lack of congressional understanding of the full range of military compensation or political expediency, repeatedly raising basic pay above the Employment Cost Index is fiscally unsustainable. It ignores the advice of military leadership and the recommendations of the Pentagon’s own commissions such as the Quadrennial Review of Military Compensation.

Reforming Military Compensation
 
The graph was constructed based on your posted views.

straw man and a concession by you of not being able to understand why your rants were so pathetic

you want the rich to pay more and when they do and then tax cuts come you are mad that those who pay the taxes get the cuts
 
straw man and a concession by you of not being able to understand why your rants were so pathetic

you want the rich to pay more and when they do and then tax cuts come you are mad that those who pay the taxes get the cuts


The rich pay the lowest tax rate in the last 80 years, and still you whine that the rates are socialistic. I stand by the graph, it is an accurate representation of your ideology.
 
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The rich pay the lowest tax rate in the last 80 years, and still you whine that the rates are socialistic.
Psst. Progressive tax rates are socialistic.
 
I want taxes to be more based on what a person uses. that is a common paradigm in history but it runs counter to the interests of people like those who see the purposes of the tax code as to give congress more power

You want one thing and only one thing regarding taxes - you paying less. Your own posts over the years demonstrate this loud and clear. You come up with 'principles' of what constitutes the best system of taxation only to turn 180 degrees on your heels and embrace the opposite system concluding that it affords you a bigger cut.

History, ethics, economics, political science, government has not a damn thing to do with your stance. Its about one thing and only one thing with you and that is your own money.

Would you like me to put the posts here that prove it to all in your own words?
 
The rich pay the lowest tax rate in the last 80 years, and still you whine that the rates are socialistic. I stand by the graph, it is an accurate representation of your ideology.

everyone else is paying an even lower rate to the point that the bottom 60% are paying NEGATIVE income tax rates

the rich now pay more of the federal income tax burden share than at anytime in the last 60 years
 
You want one thing and only one thing regarding taxes - you paying less. Your own posts over the years demonstrate this loud and clear. You come up with 'principles' of what constitutes the best system of taxation only to turn 180 degrees on your heels and embrace the opposite system concluding that it affords you a bigger cut.

History, ethics, economics, political science, government has not a damn thing to do with your stance. Its about one thing and only one thing with you and that is your own money.

Would you like me to put the posts here that prove it to all in your own words?

I want everyone who pays too much paying less. I want less government and less power for your dem masters to be able to buy the votes of those who think others have a duty to fund their existence
 
You want one thing and only one thing regarding taxes - you paying less. Your own posts over the years demonstrate this loud and clear. You come up with 'principles' of what constitutes the best system of taxation only to turn 180 degrees on your heels and embrace the opposite system concluding that it affords you a bigger cut.

History, ethics, economics, political science, government has not a damn thing to do with your stance. Its about one thing and only one thing with you and that is your own money.

Would you like me to put the posts here that prove it to all in your own words?
And how is your position so radically different?
 
And how is your position so radically different?

leftwingers pretend that their own selfish reasons are really being purveyed "for the common good" or for the Country of other BS

it may be SELFISH to say I SHOULD ONLY HAVE TO PAY FOR WHAT I USE but its far more selfish to say I WANT YOU TO PAY MORE SO YOU PAY MORE OF WHAT I USE which is what the left is really saying

they also say -YOU HAVE TO PAY MORE SO I CAN TAKE CREDIT WHEN I GIVE YOUR MONEY TO OTHERS
 
I want everyone who pays too much paying less. I want less government and less power for your dem masters to be able to buy the votes of those who think others have a duty to fund their existence

Your own posts say otherwise. Would you like to see them..............


again?
 
And how is your position so radically different?

Which position would that be?

What I have repeatedly and frequented advocated is a five point across the board tax INCREASE for anyone earning dollar one - and that would include myself.
 
Which position would that be?

What I have repeatedly and frequented advocated is a five point across the board tax INCREASE for anyone earning dollar one - and that would include myself.

Do I understand you correctly that if a person makes only one dollar a year they are to at least pay 5% of that dollar to the government. How about if a person makes only one dollar a yr they pay a minimum of 10%, and the rate goes up from there. No one escapes paying some taxes.
 
the rich now pay more of the federal income tax burden share than at anytime in the last 60 years

The rich have a larger share of income than anytime in the last 60 years, and still they pay a lower tax rate than during the last 80 years, yet still you whine!
 
The rich have a larger share of income than anytime in the last 60 years, and still they pay a lower tax rate than during the last 80 years, yet still you whine!

you pay a lower rate-everyone pays a lower rate so your rant on that has no relevance

what is relevant is the the rich are the only group that pay more of the income tax than our share of the income and people like you do not

if there is to be FAIRNESS a group that makes 22% of the income should only pay 22% of the taxes levied on that income and a group that makes 10% of the income should pay 10% of the income tax
 
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